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That plant in Lordstown was problematic for GM for years, decades actually. Strikes, industrial sabotage, low quality control, it ran the gamut of "not what to do.
Believe me, seeing it "in the flesh" was a real eye opener!
You raise some valid concerns about driving and I don't dispute any of them but I honestly feel the risks on the subways are trains are greater right now and may never go away.
I've taken the train to work before (in addition to taking a commuter bus to work). This was when I lived in the Atlanta metro area. The system out there is fragmented. There is a risk of taking the train. However, driving a car carries alot of risks too. I have a car because it's faster than taking the bus. However, I could get in a car accident due to someone else's recklessness.
I've taken the train to work before (in addition to taking a commuter bus to work). This was when I lived in the Atlanta metro area. The system out there is fragmented. There is a risk of taking the train. However, driving a car carries alot of risks too. I have a car because it's faster than taking the bus. However, I could get in a car accident due to someone else's recklessness.
And you could be killed in a train derailment because the inspectors falsified their inspection reports like happens with the DC Metro.
Sure, let's give up more of our freedoms while we're at it, why stop at privately owned cars? You won't need that boat or camper because Uber certainly isn't going to hitch it for you. You want to go shopping and then out to dinner afterwards? Where do you leave your bags? You like to go off-roading or take family road trips...forget that!
No more privately owned homes, that's a sign of privilege and it's not "equitable". We can all live in government subsidized apartment buildings, stacked on top of one another like Beijing. Several cities are already establishing laws that won't allow for new single-family housing to be built.
Or because some rando pushed you into the tracks in front of an oncoming train like has happened in NYC.
You can get hit by another car while you're driving too. Or you could be the victim of a carjacking. Anything can happen. As far as driving, I view it like this. It's a necessity and a money pit all at once.
Given the payments insurance etc. and the further time at work, given that the primary purpose of cars is to transport to work.
I have never associated car ownership with freedom.
You are too accustomed to freedom to really appreciate it. Read up on the lifestyles in America in the horse and wagon days. Then along came the Model T. Then came a yooj boom, people traveled more than 50 miles from home, cities grew up, industries grew up, people were free to travel when and where they wanted.
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Public transportation sucks ass. There's a reason the very rich don't use it.
They don't want their chauffeurs to have to ride the bus either. Let's not forget that.
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I've taken the train to work before (in addition to taking a commuter bus to work). This was when I lived in the Atlanta metro area. The system out there is fragmented. There is a risk of taking the train. However, driving a car carries alot of risks too. I have a car because it's faster than taking the bus. However, I could get in a car accident due to someone else's recklessness.
You could also get struck by a stray meteorite flying in at 6000 MPH, or by the contents of a porta-let bag that someone dropped out of a private plane flying over you at 5000' and 160 MPH.
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Sure, let's give up more of our freedoms while we're at it, why stop at privately owned cars? You won't need that boat or camper because Uber certainly isn't going to hitch it for you. You want to go shopping and then out to dinner afterwards? Where do you leave your bags? You like to go off-roading or take family road trips...forget that!
No more privately owned homes, that's a sign of privilege and it's not "equitable". We can all live in government subsidized apartment buildings, stacked on top of one another like Beijing. Several cities are already establishing laws that won't allow for new single-family housing to be built.
YES YES YES!! Ask any Rooskie how much they enjoy living in those drab poorly constructed mass-peasant housing buildings.
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You can get hit by another car while you're driving too. Or you could be the victim of a carjacking. Anything can happen. As far as driving, I view it like this. It's a necessity and a money pit all at once.
You could ride a donkey to work. The likelihood of being hit by another donkey is just about zero.
I've taken the train to work before (in addition to taking a commuter bus to work). This was when I lived in the Atlanta metro area. The system out there is fragmented. There is a risk of taking the train. However, driving a car carries alot of risks too. I have a car because it's faster than taking the bus. However, I could get in a car accident due to someone else's recklessness.
I driven through Atlanta and never ever want to do that again.
I driven through Atlanta and never ever want to do that again.
I no longer live in the Atlanta metro area.
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