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Old 01-31-2019, 02:37 PM
 
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OK, so if global warming doesn't mean "it's never cold," please give us a more precise definition.

I'll wait.......
Your wait is over.

Examine the temperature at every point on the globe, at the present moment in time. By "every point", I mean something like dividing the earth's surface (land and water) into a grid with 10 mile by 10 mile cells.
Take a reading at every node of the grid. Take a subsequent reading every 5 minutes, for the next 24 hours, the next week, the next year, the next decade... and so forth. That's a lot of readings!

Now average all of those readings over the next decade.... 2019 through 2029. Then average readings for the following decade: 2029 through 2039. And the following: 2039 through 2049. And so on.

Each decade's worth of worldwide temperature-data becomes a single data point. Now plot those data points vs. the decades. You should find a monotonically increasing trend.

That's global warming.
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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I just love how you repeatedly publish half-truths and pass them off as fact
We already KNOW that anthropogenic climate change is junk science. There have been document dumps of entire email conversations among IPCC scientists discussing how to manipulate the data to conclude a predetermined outcome, and how to either hide or destroy the evidence of what they'd done. Climategate and climategate 2.0.
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:35 PM
 
Location: AZ
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We already KNOW that anthropogenic climate change is junk science. There have been document dumps of entire email conversations among IPCC scientists discussing how to manipulate the data to conclude a predetermined outcome, and how to either hide or destroy the evidence of what they'd done. Climategate and climategate 2.0.
Lol nope, that’s just the BS narrative you espouse.

What’s the matter, you couldn’t respond to the rest of my post, let alone a full sentence?
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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Many things are already happening....The fuel economy of cars and light trucks has doubled in the last ten years...There has been a huge increase in the number of electric cars available

Even the large oil companies are building renewable energy facilities, as are many countries especially in Europe...

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/inve...ors-take-note/

https://www.bp.com/en/global/corpora...or-growth.html

https://www.shell.us/energy-and-inno...indenergy.html

https://www.chevron.com/corporate-re...newable-energy

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/05...ewable-energy/

https://www.zmescience.com/ecology/c...ewable-energy/
Do you really think these kinds of measures are really going to make much of a difference if the effects of global warming are as serious as some scientists say it is? There have to be drastic reductions in greenhouse gas emissions to avert catastrophe.

You have to remember that the U.S. population and the earth's population keeps increasing every year.
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I continue to hear birds chirping in my backyard, and it's not even February yet.

Sarah Palin was smart enough to realize that global warming is for real. Why can't other conservative Republicans see it?
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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Lol nope, that’s just the BS narrative you espouse.
You can't expect anyone to believe the junk science known as anthropogenic climate change when the global cabal of scientists tasked with studying if it even exists or not were caught manipulating data and lying about what the data shows, and then hiding their data so that it cannot be checked... not only once, but twice. /SMH


Meanwhile, in the world of REAL science...

Climate Change Models Predictions vs. Actual Observations
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:19 PM
 
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Do you really think these kinds of measures are really going to make much of a difference if the effects of global warming are as serious as some scientists say it is? There have to be drastic reductions in greenhouse gas emissions to avert catastrophe.

You have to remember that the U.S. population and the earth's population keeps increasing every year.
Precisely, I have had enough of these freezing temps.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You can't expect anyone to believe the junk science known as anthropogenic climate change when the global cabal of scientists tasked with studying if it even exists or not were caught manipulating data and lying about what the data shows, and then hiding their data so that it cannot be checked... not only once, but twice. /SMH


Meanwhile, in the world of REAL science...

Climate Change Models Predictions vs. Actual Observations
You just keep posting bull crap ...This time a fake chart from wattsupwiththat.....Below is an accurate chart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global...re_Anomaly.svg
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Do you really think these kinds of measures are really going to make much of a difference if the effects of global warming are as serious as some scientists say it is? There have to be drastic reductions in greenhouse gas emissions to avert catastrophe.

You have to remember that the U.S. population and the earth's population keeps increasing every year.
I'm hopeful that they will help, but fear that it's too late.
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Old 01-31-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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I'll ask you the same question I asked Heyschos yesterday.


What are we going to do about it?
* Ban cars?
* Ban airline travel (except for the elites of course)
* Ban manufacturing?
* Ban air conditioners?
* Force EVERYONE to buy solar panels?
Here's a few things we can do.
  1. Improved fuel economy: One wedge would be achieved if, instead of averaging 30 miles per gallon (mpg) on conventional fuel, cars in 2054 averaged 60 mpg, with fuel type and distance traveled unchanged. Given recent advances in hybrid and electric vehicle technology, this is a very plausible wedge.

  2. Reduced reliance on cars: One wedge would be achieved if the average fuel economy of the 2 billion 2054 cars were 30 mpg, but the annual distance traveled were 5000 miles instead of 10,000 miles.

  3. More efficient buildings: One wedge is the difference between pursuing and not pursuing known and established approaches to energy-efficient space heating and cooling, water heating, lighting, and refrigeration in residential and commercial buildings.

  4. Improved power plant efficiency: One wedge would be created if twice today’s quantity of coal-based e

  5. Substituting natural gas for coal: One wedge would be achieved by displacing 1400 gigawatts (GW) of baseload coal power with baseload gas by 2054. Given recent natural gas price decreases, this is another very plausible wedge.

  6. Storage of carbon captured in power plants: One wedge would be provided by the installation of carbon capture and storage (CCS) at 800 GW of baseload coal plants by 2054 or 1600 GW of baseload natural gas plants.

  7. Storage of carbon captured in hydrogen plants: The hydrogen resulting from precombustion capture of CO2 can be sent offsite to displace the consumption of conventional fuels rather than being consumed onsite to produce electricity. One wedge would require the installation of CCS, by 2054, at coal plants producing 250 million tons of hydrogen per year (MtH2/year), or at natural gas plants producing 500 MtH2/year.

  8. Storage of carbon captured in synthetic fuels plants: Large-scale production of synthetic fuels from carbon is a possibility. One wedge would be the difference between capturing and venting the CO2 from coal synthetic fuels plants producing 30 million barrels of synthetic fuels per day.

  9. Nuclear power: One wedge of nuclear electricity would displace 700 GW of efficient baseload coal capacity in 2054. This would require 700 GW of nuclear power with the same 90% capacity factor assumed for the coal plants, or about twice the nuclear capacity currently deployed.

  10. Wind power: One wedge of wind electricity would require the deployment of 2000 GW of nominal peak capacity (GWp) that displaces coal electricity in 2054 (or 2 million 1-MWp wind turbines). This would require approximately 10 times the current (as of 2010) deployment of wind power by mid-century. Note that global wind power deployment increased from approximately 40 GW in 2004 to 158 GW in 2009.

  11. Solar photovoltaic power: One wedge from photovoltaic (PV) electricity would require 2000 GWp of installed capacity that displaces coal electricity in 2054. This would require approximately 100 times the current (as of 2010) deployment of solar PV power by mid-century. Note that global solar PV power deployment increased from approximately 3 GW in 2004 to 20 GW in 2009.

  12. Renewable hydrogen: Renewable electricity can produce carbon-free hydrogen for vehicle fuel by the electrolysis of water. The hydrogen produced by 4 million 1-MWp windmills in 2054, if used in high-efficiency fuel-cell cars, would achieve a wedge of displaced gasoline or diesel fuel. However, use of renewable energy to power electric vehicles is more efficient than powering hydrogen vehicles with hydrogen produced through electrolysis from renewable power.

  13. Biofuels: One wedge of biofuel would be achieved by the production of about 34 million barrels per day of ethanol in 2054 that could displace gasoline, provided the ethanol itself were fossil-carbon free. This ethanol production rate would be about 50 times larger than today’s global production rate, almost all of which can be attributed to Brazilian sugarcane and United States corn. The potential exists for increased biofuels production to compromise agriculturaly production, unless the biofuels are created from a non-food crop or other source such as algae oil.

  14. Forest management: At least one wedge would be available from reduced tropical deforestation and the management of temperate and tropical forests. At least one half-wedge would be created if the current rate of clear-cutting of primary tropical forest were reduced to zero over 50 years instead of being halved. A second half-wedge would be created by reforesting or afforesting approximately 250 million hectares in the tropics or 400 million hectares in the temperate zone (current areas of tropical and temperate forests are 1500 and 700 million hectares, respectively). A third half-wedge would be created by establishing approximately 300 million hectares of plantations on non-forested land.

  15. Agricultural soils management: When forest or natural grassland is converted to cropland, up to one-half of the soil carbon is lost, primarily because annual tilling increases the rate of decomposition by aerating undecomposed organic matter. One-half to one wedge could be stored by extending conservation tillage to all cropland, accompanied by a verification program that enforces the adoption of soil conservation practices that work as advertised.

There are lot's of sources you can look up on you own other than repeating your same old bark up a dead tree.
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