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What does legally earned mean? It means you paid your taxes, and everything you net after. If you haven't paid taxes yet, it's not your money and the government can even charge interest if the amount and time is big enough.
So yes, the money belongs to you after you pay your taxes. If you don't pay your taxes, part of that earnings is not legal.
Which wouldn't be a problem if the U.S. government didn't require tribute and that tribute be made in its monopolized currency.
Here I shall cite once again the story of my off-grid friends living in the mountains of Vermont. They use no State services or infrastructure yet they must make two tributes a year (what the statists call property taxes) to the State.
Quite the conundrum for a family that doesn't use U.S. currency in its daily life. How do they pay? The wife babysits under the table and receives U.S. currency for the sole use of paying the tribute. She would not do it otherwise but if the tribute isn't paid and paid using the mandatory currency they will face a caging.
Isn't it ironic that in order live peacefully on your own you still must be a slave to the State and at the same time become a "criminal" under its laws (she isn't filing W2s)?
Here I shall cite once again the story of my off-grid friends living in the mountains of Vermont. They use no State services or infrastructure yet they must make two tributes a year (what the statists call property taxes) to the State.
Quite the conundrum for a family that doesn't use U.S. currency in its daily life. How do they pay? The wife babysits under the table and receives U.S. currency for the sole use of paying the tribute. She would not do it otherwise but if the tribute isn't paid and paid using the mandatory currency they will face a caging.
Isn't it ironic that in order live peacefully on your own you still must be a slave to the State and at the same time become a "criminal" under its laws (she isn't filing W2s)?
Having looked into it, I think the closest an individual can get to being free of forced tribute is living aboard an ocean voyage capable boat, and docking only in locations that do not require live-aboards to pay personal property tax. You can actually avoid almost all property and income taxation that way, assuming you know all the rules for how many days you can be in any location before you are considered a taxable resident.
Not too many other ways to own your shelter outright and not have to pay (semi)annual tribute simply because you and your shelter exist within a specific geography.
My off grid friends in Vermont have only one need for the U.S. dollar - paying their tribute to the State. The U.S. dollar has no value in their everyday life. NONE.
Sorry, you'll have to start from that reality. Unless you're saying they can avoid those property taxes without facing one of your goons threatening to cage them.
Give to Caesar what's Caesar's. You want to use US currency, then pay the cost.
When arguing against freedom, opponents want pat answers to every scenario they can imagine, but refuse to use that same imagination to consider that there might be multiple alternatives or solutions not yet thought of or developed. Who could have imagined/forseen careers such as web designer, code writer, radiologist, nuclear engineer, etc. a hundred years ago? But yet we are expected to answer the questions right now or its NO SALE.
That’s one of the most frustrating things for me. Even back when I believed in all kinds of state intervention, I at least had the mentality that in an ideal world, people could just live their lives in peace, the way they wish to live it. When someone said there was a way, I was skeptical but excited to hear it.
The fact that many people aggressively find any excuse to dismiss the idea is just strange. I suppose that goes back to the old Sam Adams quote...
Quote:
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
The land my friends bought from the U.S. government is not a binding contract. It was tribute so that they could put a roof over their head and remain alive.
The land was not homesteaded by an individual. Upon purchase, they cleared it and built their home. By natural law, it belonged to no one prior to them mixing their labor with it.
But because the State demands a tribute for the land or else they will cage/kill you...my friends complied. Do you know what that means? It means they made a decision under duress which voids any contract. The other day T0103E pointed this out by giving the example of a carjacking: if a man holds a gun to your head and demands that you give him your car that doesn't mean you've consented or condone such transfers of ownership. And you rightfully owned that car too. You were under duress...the gun to your head is a dead giveaway.
What claim does the State have to land which it has not had one of its goons mix his labor with?
But you must pay property taxes or fines/licenses in order to remain on land the State arbitrarily claimed eons before your own birth.
Again, if you're saying that I can go up to the mountains like my friends did and simply pick out a plot of land and homestead it without one of your goons threatening me I'd love to see it. They went to the library (hooray for the benefits of taxation ), located the county auditor's website, found the parcel the State had assigned one of its fancy numbers to (let's call it P-5744785...are you impressed with the official nature of this number? I am. ), and then went to the county courthouse (another impressive feature of the State...those ornate buildings which give off such an aura of authority) and paid a tribute to be able to have shelter over their head.
You don't understand ownership and rights of ownership. I must mix my labor with a natural resource to make a finished good - then I own it. Or I could voluntarily trade, buy, or receive from charity a product then it becomes mine.
The problem is you have armed goons at the ready if I do not form an agreement with them. That's duress. It's a non-binding agreement when one man has a gun to his head.
Using this logic...landlords are coercing their tenants for tribute?
I buy gold and I keep it. No one has my money but me.
If your "ownership" of that gold is in the form of certificates rather than bullion stashed in your safe deposit box, your money tied up in that asset is definitely in circulation.
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), located the county auditor's website, found the parcel the State had assigned one of its fancy numbers to (let's call it P-5744785...are you impressed with the official nature of this number? I am. 
), and then went to the county courthouse (another impressive feature of the State...those ornate buildings which give off such an aura of authority) and paid a tribute to be able to have shelter over their head. 
Congratulations
