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Old 02-02-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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Conservatives are being scammed by liberal Fox News on Venezuela. Democracy is use interchangeably with socialism. In a way that leaves a false impression of freedom and democracy.

Don't get my message wrong. Fox is still far better than other leftist media but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be called out when they try to fool people.

Guaido is every bit the socialist that Maduro is.
Why would it be better to support one over the other when they are both going in the same direction ? When supporters of Guaido are talking to media they talk about democracy. Leaving off what they really are talking about is Socialist Democracy. The same thing and path to destruction as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders and most of the democrat presidential hopefuls want for America.

If not knowing what Guaido and his supporters are really talking about it sounds much different. Trish Regan of Fox Business coverage of Guaido leaves a false impression.

Fighting Communism with Socialism won't save Venezuela
Fighting Communism with Socialism won't save Venezuela

More seriously, the replacement of a communist thug by a different kind of socialist will not eliminate the the predecessor to Maduro, in the Armed Forces and intelligence service. Even with amnesty, they would stay behind, with help from Russia, Cuba, and China, to destabilize any new regime and spark a full-blown civil war, perhaps leading to calls for U.S. military intervention.


( notice Maduro's VP is the same glassy eyed lunatic we see with leaders on the left in the US )
Who is Juan Guaidó
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...t-of-venezuela

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Old 02-02-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by phma View Post
Conservatives are being scammed by liberal Fox News on Venezuela. Democracy is use interchangeably with socialism. In a way that leaves a false impression of freedom and democracy.

Don't get my message wrong. Fox is still far better than other leftist media but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be called out when they try to fool people.

Guaido is every bit the socialist that Maduro is.
Why would it be better to support one over the other when they are both going in the same direction ? When supporters of Guaido are talking to media they talk about democracy. Leaving off what they really are talking about is Socialist Democracy. The same thing and path to destruction as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders and most of the democrat presidential hopefuls want for America.

If not knowing what Guaido and his supporters are really talking about it sounds much different. Trish Regan of Fox Business coverage of Guaido leaves a false impression.

Fighting Communism with Socialism won't save Venezuela
Fighting Communism with Socialism won't save Venezuela

More seriously, the replacement of a communist thug by a different kind of socialist will not eliminate the the predecessor to Maduro, in the Armed Forces and intelligence service. Even with amnesty, they would stay behind, with help from Russia, Cuba, and China, to destabilize any new regime and spark a full-blown civil war, perhaps leading to calls for U.S. military intervention.


( notice Maduro's VP is the same glassy eyed lunatic we see with leaders on the left in the US )
Who is Juan Guaidó
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...t-of-venezuela
Venezuela is a perfect Socialist state.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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Democracy is use interchangeably with socialism.

No.

Democracy is a political framework for governing.

Socialism is an economic system.

It is not possible use them interchangeably. One can exist without the other, both can exist together or neither can exist together. They are two different things, two different topics.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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Democracy is use interchangeably with socialism.

No.

Democracy is a political framework for governing.

Socialism is an economic system.

It is not possible use them interchangeably. One can exist without the other, both can exist together or neither can exist together. They are two different things, two different topics.
In context !!!
"In a way that leaves a false impression of freedom and democracy"

Per the link :

Fox Business added, "President Trump has vowed to use the 'full weight' of America's power to help the poverty-stricken country go from a socialist state to a genuinely democratic Venezuela." This may be the goal of Trump, who later spoke to Guaido over the phone, but the members of the Socialist International orchestrating this regime change do not want to see the end of a socialist state in Venezuela.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:42 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Wow, Fox News is now liberal? Who knew..
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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Socialists never learn from history.

Why they are idiots.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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Wow, Fox News is now liberal? Who knew..
Many on the left don't know it.
They are used to being fooled by other liberal media.


Fox is the best, with their high ratings, at getting across the leftist POV.
Many conservatives hear what the left is saying before they counter with truth, commonsense and reason.
That's what makes Fox watchable. Its not one sided vomit like other media.
That's why its important to point out any misinformation.
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Old 02-10-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Conservatives are being scammed by liberal Fox News on Venezuela. Democracy is use interchangeably with socialism. In a way that leaves a false impression of freedom and democracy.
It is not hard to do, since they take FOX & Breitbart for gospel.

Trump is trying to replace one socialist with another socialist, but unfortunately does not even understand the words he uses. He says he wants to replace socialism with democracy when Venezuela is an example democratic socialism. If anything, his actions will remove the "democratic" from the equation, and Venezuela will remain socialist, but it didn't get there via democracy, but via foreign intervention.
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Old 02-10-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Many on the left don't know it.
They are used to being fooled by other liberal media.


Fox is the best, with their high ratings, at getting across the leftist POV.
Many conservatives hear what the left is saying before they counter with truth, commonsense and reason.
That's what makes Fox watchable. Its not one sided vomit like other media.
That's why its important to point out any misinformation.
It's more one-sided than any other major network, except maybe MSNBC.
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Socialists never learn from history.

Why they are idiots.
Which I guess explains the awful standard of living and low productivity of Nordic countries.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark

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Denmark is considered to be one of the most economically and socially developed countries in the world.[12] Danes enjoy a high standard of living and the country ranks highly in some metrics of national performance, including education, health care, protection of civil liberties, democratic governance, prosperity, and human development.[13][14][15] The country ranks as having the world's highest social mobility,[16] a high level of income equality,[17] is among the countries with the lowest perceived levels of corruption in the world.
Boy... what a bunch of ‘idiots’.
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