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Old 02-15-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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This cracks me up. He said he was looking at ways the 25th could be used on a Trump and even plotting trying to use the Cabinet to do so. He was not investigating crime which is his actual job, he was investigating methodology to remove a duly elected President having no evidence of a crime (which would garner an impeachment trial and not invoking the 25th). He only had his suspicions as he claimed and with only that, he was prepared to move forward with an idea to use the 25th as an end run at trying to remove a President. Know what that’s called? Planning a coup.

Try your sad spin elsewhere. McCabe’s own words confirmed what people suspected. Actually I think McCabe’s actions are actually worse than what people suspected. Shoot they only suspected bias not actual sedition.
So you say, so you say.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:42 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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- You're conflating two separate issues, to serve your own bias. The FBI can not remove the POTUS because he chooses to declare a National Emergency. That's not an option.

You are being ridiculous. No one claims the FBI can invoke the 25th amendment for any reason.

- There is no "well documented behavioral instability", no "apparent mental and emotional defects" or "recognized unfitness to serve". You're just being emotional. You're an entitled baby, who's still angry they lost an election fair & square. You've invented this crap to justify staging a coup d'etat, which will never happen. I didn't even vote for Trump, yet I see none of what you're describing, so I'm sure Trump voters don't either.
You sound like you are either willfully uninformed or just not paying attention.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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https://www.conservativereview.com/n...vITC5pb3B-JOAs


"Fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s book tour began with a “60 minutes” interview this week in which he confirmed that he commenced an effort to remove President Trump from office, citing his concerns with the president’s supposed ties to Russia, for which no evidence has ever surfaced."

Andrew McCabe was far from the only FBI official to disgrace himself. Other now-fired FBI officials, such as James Comey and Peter Strzok, helped transform the FBI into a political weapon to sabotage the president through the baseless Trump-Russia investigation. There are still only two primary explanations for their conduct. The first is they were simply incompetent and commenced a probe without sufficient nonpartisan evidence. The second and more likely explanation is that McCabe and his cohorts were on a hell-bent quest to overturn the results of the election. Call it what it was: a soft coup attempt. Luckily for our republic, the coup attempt failed."

Hard to believe this could happen in our country. How would the media act if the Obama administration was treated this way?

You left out the other Amigo, Rosenstein.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:54 PM
 
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Trump is a liar, a divider, incompetent and maybe even compromised by the Russians, that's reason enough. McCabe would have saved us from years of reality TV. Let's face it, the Republicans are willing to see the country go down the drain as long as they stay in power.

"a liar, a divider, incompetent and maybe even compromised by the Russians,"Thts thread is NOT about the clinton's and obama.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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Or, one might believe that this news from McCabe is absolute confirmation senior officials within the Justice Department were so worried about Trump's erratic and criminal behavior in office that they contemplated the unimaginable: Removing this oaf by means of the Constitution.

The fact that such experienced, professional people appointed by both Rs and Ds -- people responsible for enforcing the laws of the country -- were driven to contemplating such extreme action proves just how abnormal and dangerous Trump really is to both the office of the president and the country. In that light, considering invocation of the 25th Amendment is the ultimate act of patriotism by people who put country before party.

This wasn't about whether Trump was a Dem or a Republican president--it was about law and order, and the need to insulate the office of the presidency from a bad poseur. And they, as many, believed Trump to be that bad.

As do 60% of the country. Thank god there are some intelligent sane people monitoring this immoral, ignorant loose canon of a so-called president, because unfortunately, if he destroys the country, it is not a matter of Dems saying--see, we were right, because it will not matter any more. This demented bozo is capable of destroying the country. Lest we forget, Trump, the clueless candidate, queried the military as to why we have nukes if we can't use them?

With all the crap he pulled with the Russians, and Putin, obstruction of justice, relating other country's classified info to the Russians, and his not-so-secret Moscow project--the DOJ would be derelict in its duty if they did not look at Trump's behavior as both irrational and traitorous. They should be commended.

"This wasn't about whether Trump was a Dem or a Republican president--it was about law and order,"


Right and you probably believe in the Tooth Fairy!


Why do you think McCabe was FIRED?
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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Robert Mueller is. Why can't we see the unredacted FISA applications? Or the FBI 302 notes? Or know why Judge Rudolph Contreras was yanked off the Michael Flynn case at the last minute? Or see the unredacted Strzok/Page texts? Or the texts from the other FBI/DOJ conspirators? Why can't we see the 3rd party contractors who were caught illegally accessing the FISA & FBI databases? Why can't the OIG investigations get answers from the people they're investigating? Why can't thew OIG have access to the documents they're requesting? Because in every single case, Mueller won't allow us to see the documentation and/or the witnesses refuse to answer certain questions claiming it would interfere with the Meuller investigation. Trump could declassify these things, but has been told it would constitute 'Obstruction of Justice'.

For those who get their news from biased, partisan outlets like CNN or the WaPo, the real reason for the ongoing Mueller investigation is to protect the conspirators in the coup attempt & the reputation of the FBI/DOJ/CIA, not to investigate Russian collusion by the Trump admin.
But it's also do what you alluded to in bold: Actions by Trump to punish the conspirators and resist the couip is going to be sold as obstruction of justice.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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You misstate the situation when you use the term "coup" in your thread's title. McCabe and others discussed the possibility of using the 25th Amendment to the Constitution - quite legally and obviously constitutionally - because they were extremely concerned about Trump's fitness to be in office as the President of the United States. This is far different from a coup, which is an illegal overthrow of government, usually by force.
It's not their business. Americans voted for him and it's not his decision to make, just because he doesn't agree with the people who voted for Trump.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Trump is a liar, a divider, incompetent and maybe even compromised by the Russians, that's reason enough. McCabe would have saved us from years of reality TV. Let's face it, the Republicans are willing to see the country go down the drain as long as they stay in power.

That's the left's opinion, not a fact.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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Fact indeed, four of Individual no.1's inner circle indicted. How many others under sealed indictment.

Press just asked Individual no. 1 where does he get his facts from, couldn't answer.

A fish stinks from its head.

It pretty much stinko right now.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Or, one might believe that this news from McCabe is absolute confirmation senior officials within the Justice Department were so worried about Trump's erratic and criminal behavior in office that they contemplated the unimaginable: Removing this oaf by means of the Constitution.

The fact that such experienced, professional people appointed by both Rs and Ds -- people responsible for enforcing the laws of the country -- were driven to contemplating such extreme action proves just how abnormal and dangerous Trump really is to both the office of the president and the country. In that light, considering invocation of the 25th Amendment is the ultimate act of patriotism by people who put country before party.

This wasn't about whether Trump was a Dem or a Republican president--it was about law and order, and the need to insulate the office of the presidency from a bad poseur. And they, as many, believed Trump to be that bad.

As do 60% of the country. Thank god there are some intelligent sane people monitoring this immoral, ignorant loose canon of a so-called president, because unfortunately, if he destroys the country, it is not a matter of Dems saying--see, we were right, because it will not matter any more. This demented bozo is capable of destroying the country. Lest we forget, Trump, the clueless candidate, queried the military as to why we have nukes if we can't use them?

With all the crap he pulled with the Russians, and Putin, obstruction of justice, relating other country's classified info to the Russians, and his not-so-secret Moscow project--the DOJ would be derelict in its duty if they did not look at Trump's behavior as both irrational and traitorous. They should be commended.
They were acting like this before he even took office. Perhaps they were threatened by the fact that a non politician got voted in and wanted to break up the little good old boy power structure they had built up.

Professional people?? Lol! They can lose their minds too and be corrupted by power. It doesn't matter who elected them. They don't put country before party, only their own self interests.

Don't believe they cared if he had been a Democrat, just that he ran as a republican and did what he said he'd do. They were just throwing a hissy fit.

There is no proof of collusion. That spaghetti hit the wall and slid down.
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