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Old 02-18-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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It would not be a coup. The constitution provides for the removal of a mentally unfit president. Trump's erratic behavior begs whether he is mentally stable and fit for the office.
WHAT erratic behavior? He changes his mind, yes. Have you never changed your mind? Just because you don't like him, disagree with him or find him loud and bombastic doesn't mean he's mentally unstable. It's not for you, the media or Andy McCabe to judge whether he is or isn't fit. Especially before he even takes office.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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WHAT erratic behavior? He changes his mind, yes. Have you never changed your mind?
Excellent point. Obama was against same-sex marriage before he was for it.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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Right. A man who doesn't drink or take drugs is deemed to be mentally unfit, by a bunch of freaks who are likely coked to the gills, one way or another.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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It would not be a coup. The constitution provides for the removal of a mentally unfit president. Trump's erratic behavior begs whether he is mentally stable and fit for the office.


It is interesting that so many Trump supporters are against the US constitution. They want it disregarded when it please them such as with the national emergency declaration that circumvents congress. They also argue that a constitutional provision in place to protect the US from an unfit POTUS is somehow a coup. Why do Trump supporters have such disdain for the US Constitution?
It would be a coup if The President were removed because of false charges, which is what we are talking about. There was not a discussion of "erratic behavior" nor talk of "mental stability" until the promoters of the coup were revealed. Then they resorted to making up excuses. They wanted to remove him and tried to use the Russian connection as a tool. The tool fell apart, so they attempted to invent a different tool.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:14 PM
 
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Removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is, by definition, not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.


Why Allegations of a Coup Against Trump are Unfounded:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.a2639f024f62


Unfortunately the people who need to read this won't do so. They are the same people who typically rail on about our Constitution, but have never read it, as is also true of their dear leader.


This article thoroughly explains the mechanism of the 25th amendment.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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Removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is, by definition, not a coup..............
As long as you don't invent reason for removal, I expect you are right.
But since no Russian connection has ever been shown, the argument vanishes.
It's like sending a man to jail for bank robbery and then finding that no bank robbery occurred. And then arguing, "Yeah, but it's still illegal to rob banks! Why do you people hate the law??!!"
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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Removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is, by definition, not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.


Why Allegations of a Coup Against Trump are Unfounded:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.a2639f024f62


Unfortunately the people who need to read this won't do so. They are the same people who typically rail on about our Constitution, but have never read it, as is also true of their dear leader.


This article thoroughly explains the mechanism of the 25th amendment.
I read it. It would indeed be a coup if the 25th Amendment were used to remove based on lies and false allegations. Lies such as, you know, POTUS is colluding with Russia.

McCabe sat in that interview and baldfacedly admitted to his role in the attempt.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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BTW OP, the unfounded allegations would need to be against Rosenstein, not McCabe. Because they are unfounded...hence so what. The intellectual lazies who are all outraged today have clearly not read anything in depth or watched any complete interviews.


Another additional bit of irony here: Trump invested a great deal of time in painting McCabe as a liar in other contexts, but here he and his allies take McCabe’s words as gospel truth. We see this in other ways, too, as when Trump cites reporting from mainstream news outlets that suits his purposes while otherwise generally disparaging them as “fake news.”


Oh well, if one's leader is intellectually lazy what can we expect from his followers?
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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As long as you don't invent reason for removal, I expect you are right.
But since no Russian connection has ever been shown, the argument vanishes
If there wasn't evidence of Russian collusion, Roger Stone wouldn't be under arrest and a gag order.

If there wasn't evidence of Russian collusion, Brittany Kaiser from Cambridge Analytica wouldn't have been subpoenaed.

Court filings: "Prosecutors for Special Counsel Robert Mueller said in court filings Friday that former Trump adviser Roger Stone directly communicated with WikiLeaks and Russian hackers who stole thousands of emails from Democrats."

The "no collusion" argument is vanishing before our very eyes.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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BTW OP, the unfounded allegations would need to be against Rosenstein, not McCabe. Because they are unfounded...hence so what. The intellectual lazies who are all outraged today have clearly not read anything in depth or watched any complete interviews.


Another additional bit of irony here: Trump invested a great deal of time in painting McCabe as a liar in other contexts, but here he and his allies take McCabe’s words as gospel truth. We see this in other ways, too, as when Trump cites reporting from mainstream news outlets that suits his purposes while otherwise generally disparaging them as “fake news.”


Oh well, if one's leader is intellectually lazy what can we expect from his followers?
So I guess you consider yourself to be one of the intellectually astute?.

And yet you refer to "intellectual lazies" Genius! What does that EVEN mean? It MIGHT have made sense if you had referred to someone as an "intellectual sluggard" or some such grandiose poppycock. "Lazy" is an adjective. It doesn't translate to the plural.
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