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Old 02-19-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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They were plotting a coup against their boss without a single relevant party in the room. Only the Cabinet members can invoke the 25th. None were present. They had no legal basis for even discussing the matter. On the high seas, they'd call that mutiny. But the land lubbers of the world use words like "coup d'etat" and "treason." The American people elected the man and your opinion of your new boss is irrelevant.
As you stated, only the Cabinet can invoke the 25th amendment, so what McCabe and Rosenstein did is called having a conversation. Nothing illegal about that.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:22 AM
 
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The "Gang of 8," a bipartisan group of 4 democrats & 4 republicans (Devin Nunes, Bill Burr, Kevin McCarthy, and Mitch McConnell) was briefed by Andrew McCabe.

Andrew McCabe told the bipartisan Gang of 8 that the FBI was going to open an investigation into Donald Trump on grounds of him possibly being compromised. NOBODY objected, to include Republicans Devin Nunes, Bill Burr, Kevin McCarthy, and Mitch McConnell. None of them questioned it.

Trump supporters....opinions? Why didn't Devin Nunes & Mitch McConnell, two of Trump's biggest supporters, object when briefed by FBI that they would be investigating Trump? The very same investigation that Trump is calling a "coup."



https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1097851571742793728
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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Mitch McConnell. Devin Nunes.

When these two men were briefed by Andy McCabe that the FBI would be opening an investigation into Donald Trump on grounds of being compromised by Russia, neither McConnell or Nunes spoke up or objected.




https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/...49599958663168
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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I read it. It would indeed be a coup if the 25th Amendment were used to remove based on lies and false allegations. Lies such as, you know, POTUS is colluding with Russia.

McCabe sat in that interview and baldfacedly admitted to his role in the attempt.
Well, in all fairness, you didn't really expect him to be honest did you?
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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The 25th Amendment is about an incapacitated President ... it’s NOT about removing a President that the Elite Washington crowd dislikes. It was absolutely a discussion about a Coup ... as was the entire DOJ/FBI/CIA Investigation into the Trump Campaign and Presidency.

We have crossed a Red Line in this Nation - I’m not at all sure there will be any recovery from that.
There is plenty of evidence that Trump is not mentally competent. In fact, the man is bat-shoot crazy.

But apart from that, let's assume you are correct - "it was absolutely a discussion about a Coup". Specifically what laws were broken?
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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Try to understand the concept, that the FBI has no such power, charter or any such authority to do such things.

If a Democratic president was subject to the exact same thing by a rogue FBI, it would be considered 100 times more explosive than Watergate, due to constant MSM coverage and demands for charges to be brought against the rouge FBI agents.
Get a clue and read the Constitution, and the FBI charter to see the proper ways to deal with the removal of a president.
Here is a big hint, the FBI has no such power, nor should it, regardless of who is president.


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Get a grip. Of course the FBI doesn't have that power; no one disputes that. Does the FBI have the right, even the responsibility, to request that the Cabinet consider invoking the 25th amendment? Absolutely. Every citizen does.

And if you read your Constitution, you would see that to invoke the 25th means that the Vice president and a majority of the Cabinet first have to agree. Then the President may nullify it by submitting a statement to Congress that he is fit to serve. It takes a 2/3 majority in both houses to override that.

So if the President had been removed in this way, it would not be the FBI doing it, but the VP, majority of the Cabinet and two-thirds of Senators and Representatives.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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Excellent point. Obama was against same-sex marriage before he was for it.
Trump was pro choice before before he was pro life.

Like most Republicans, I imagine he is all about abortions for his mistresses and that's it
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:52 AM
 
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Trump was pro choice before before he was pro life.
You're clearly seeing which party is evolving morally, no? For example, feticide is no longer a crime in NY due to their new 3rd trimester abortion law.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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https://www.conservativereview.com/n...vITC5pb3B-JOAs


"Fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s book tour began with a “60 minutes” interview this week in which he confirmed that he commenced an effort to remove President Trump from office, citing his concerns with the president’s supposed ties to Russia, for which no evidence has ever surfaced."

Andrew McCabe was far from the only FBI official to disgrace himself. Other now-fired FBI officials, such as James Comey and Peter Strzok, helped transform the FBI into a political weapon to sabotage the president through the baseless Trump-Russia investigation. There are still only two primary explanations for their conduct. The first is they were simply incompetent and commenced a probe without sufficient nonpartisan evidence. The second and more likely explanation is that McCabe and his cohorts were on a hell-bent quest to overturn the results of the election. Call it what it was: a soft coup attempt. Luckily for our republic, the coup attempt failed."

Hard to believe this could happen in our country. How would the media act if the Obama administration was treated this way?
Obama would never be involved in illegal and potentially traitorous activity with a foreign adversary. Trump is a criminal, and always has been, and now he's being investigated as one, just like he has before he was president. It's really that simple. No need to start conspiracy theories when something so obvious is staring you in the face, unless you're being willfully ignorant.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:04 AM
 
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As you stated, only the Cabinet can invoke the 25th amendment, so what McCabe and Rosenstein did is called having a conversation. Nothing illegal about that.
As a poster said earlier,they should have been chaseing bank robbers,not the President of the US.
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