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Gun control activists are pretty clear on what they think the problem is when it comes to gun violence... there are are too many guns and they are too easy to get a hold of...
...But even the most controversial new gun control proposals take exactly ZERO guns out of public circulation.
The proposed "Assault Weapon" ban only blocks future sales of new items and has a grandfather clause allowing everyone to keep all their "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines +sell them second-hand. As was the case during the first AWB, so called "assault weapons" could be made compliant by changing/deleting certain cosmetic features and swapping various parts. Even then, such guns are only used in a tiny minority of crimes anyway.
Proposed tax increases on guns/ammo make gun stuff more expensive but doesn't take them off the shelves.
Bump-firing can still be done fairly easy without a bumpstock and bumpstocks can be easily made at home. Other than their infamous use in the Vegas massacre, bumpstocks have just been range toys for wasting ammo and have never been in regular use by most gun owners or criminals for that matter. Beyond that, modern firearms technology itself is over a century old... it's not all that complicated and the growth of new technologies like hobby CNC machining and 3D printing make it easy for relatively unskilled folks to actually make reliable guns "off the grid".
Universal Background checks is a good idea on paper but who really thinks people are gonna actually go through the hassle of going to a gun store and paying transfer/background check/service fees if they are making a private gun sale?
Although it's not currently proposed on a national level, some States require the registration of "assault weapons"... but compliance rates are abysmal and the efforts to list such gun owners and control distribution of military style guns are effectively a total failure.
Unless the police happen to run across a crazy guy and his guns, proposed early intervention and seizure of firearms from mentally ill people is essentially worthless without gun registration (which doesn't actually exist outside a couple leftist states) Gun owners are highly resistant to being put on a government list of gun owners for obvious reasons.
There are 300 million guns out there, including tens of millions of military style rifles. High capacity magazines in private hands are many multiples of that number. The government does NOT know where they are or who has them and gun owners are determined to keep it that way. They will not comply and not accept being criminalized merely for possessing them. There are not enough jail beds to accommodate even a tiny minority of them anyway.
So even if you got all your proposed gun control laws implemented, they would not reduce the raw number of available military style guns (which is a HUGE number, BTW) and many such laws would be actively rejected/ignored. The capability of Law Enforcement to actually enforce these new laws isn't there either.
So tell me... what exactly is being accomplished here? How does this stuff actually stop mass shootings and/or save lives?
I'll answer. It is to disarm the non threatening, law abiding citizens to create more government dependency, and control. It is all camouflaged in "reducing gun violence", and public safety. If that were the case, they'd address the huge, inner city Black, on Black violence by criminals using guns in crime. Also, they'd address mental health issues, and suicides. Instead they come after the law abiding, and legal groups like the NRA.
I'll answer. It is to disarm the non threatening, law abiding citizens to create more government dependency, and control. It is all camouflaged in "reducing gun violence", and public safety. If that were the case, they'd address the huge, inner city Black, on Black violence by criminals using guns in crime. Also, they'd address mental health issues, and suicides. Instead they come after the law abiding, and legal groups like the NRA.
i cant rep you again, so this will have to do
you are spot on pilot1, the reality is that the gun control proponents want to eliminate the second amendment, and they know they cant get that done through proper channels and being open about it, so they talk about "common sense" gun laws, and banning certain weapons and accessories.
and then they turn around and say it isnt about hunting, or they arent coming after your guns, or other such obvious lies.
I don't think they ALL want to ban guns completely (and by ban i mean complete gun confiscation), but there are without a doubt plenty that do. Just read some of the comments on this site.
Gun control activists are pretty clear on what they think the problem is when it comes to gun violence... there are are too many guns and they are too easy to get a hold of...
...But even the most controversial new gun control proposals take exactly ZERO guns out of public circulation.
The proposed "Assault Weapon" ban only blocks future sales of new items and has a grandfather clause allowing everyone to keep all their "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines +sell them second-hand. As was the case during the first AWB, so called "assault weapons" could be made compliant by changing/deleting certain cosmetic features and swapping various parts. Even then, such guns are only used in a tiny minority of crimes anyway.
Proposed tax increases on guns/ammo make gun stuff more expensive but doesn't take them off the shelves.
Bump-firing can still be done fairly easy without a bumpstock and bumpstocks can be easily made at home. Other than their infamous use in the Vegas massacre, bumpstocks have just been range toys for wasting ammo and have never been in regular use by most gun owners or criminals for that matter. Beyond that, modern firearms technology itself is over a century old... it's not all that complicated and the growth of new technologies like hobby CNC machining and 3D printing make it easy for relatively unskilled folks to actually make reliable guns "off the grid".
Universal Background checks is a good idea on paper but who really thinks people are gonna actually go through the hassle of going to a gun store and paying transfer/background check/service fees if they are making a private gun sale?
Although it's not currently proposed on a national level, some States require the registration of "assault weapons"... but compliance rates are abysmal and the efforts to list such gun owners and control distribution of military style guns are effectively a total failure.
Unless the police happen to run across a crazy guy and his guns, proposed early intervention and seizure of firearms from mentally ill people is essentially worthless without gun registration (which doesn't actually exist outside a couple leftist states) Gun owners are highly resistant to being put on a government list of gun owners for obvious reasons.
There are 300 million guns out there, including tens of millions of military style rifles. High capacity magazines in private hands are many multiples of that number. The government does NOT know where they are or who has them and gun owners are determined to keep it that way. They will not comply and not accept being criminalized merely for possessing them. There are not enough jail beds to accommodate even a tiny minority of them anyway.
So even if you got all your proposed gun control laws implemented, they would not reduce the raw number of available military style guns (which is a HUGE number, BTW) and many such laws would be actively rejected/ignored. The capability of Law Enforcement to actually enforce these new laws isn't there either.
So tell me... what exactly is being accomplished here? How does this stuff actually stop mass shootings and/or save lives?
What are YOUR proposals to make this a safer place to live or don`t you care about mass murders that happen in schools, churches, concerts, movie theaters, etc.? #Body Counts Don`t Matter
Do you really think that your gun makes you bullet proof?
So someone posts on a Sunday morning and nobody has answered in 20 minutes and that's the conclusion you jump to.
Ahh interesting conclusion.
No. I have read thread after thread on here with 100s of replies and they don't have an answer. They offer no solutions other than taking everyone's guns.
What are YOUR proposals to make this a safer place to live or don`t you care about mass murders that happen in schools, churches, concerts, movie theaters, etc.? #Body Counts Don`t Matter
Do you really think that your gun makes you bullet proof?
First off, I'm sick of the B.S. claim constantly thrown out by anti-gun people that if you aren't with us, you are for violence and murder. Stop it... it's obviously not true and it's stupid. Grow up.
Next, we need to accept that since we can't close Pandora's box and *poof* all the guns away, we have to accept this is ultimately a PEOPLE problem and work accordingly. I don't know all the answers but I do have one idea:
Everyone knows that if you consistently abuse a puppy, it will grow up to be a troublesome and untrustworthy dog. People are no different... we need to focus on the children and work more long-term to combat child abuse, bullying, broken families and using violence as a solution to problems.
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