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Old 02-21-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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Its the best system that still allows the people with immense power to keep hold of their power. But the elites are always seeking permanent oligarchy, just like during feudal times. Capitalism is a middle ground, as the people at the top knows that they will destroy the economy completely if they dont allow economic freedom for their challengers/the people.

If they follow their greedy urges to seek permanent dynastic rule, the nation would be destroyed. So the elites have to balance their quest for unlimited power with half-measured attempts at what we knows brings wealth; fighting corruption and investing in the people regardless of their class and giving people more freedom and increasing social mobility in society.

A system that does not see preserving the power and status of the elite as the top priority and purely focuses on economic efficiency and freedom would be the best system.
So elite greedy people will be the same regardless of the economic system in place.

You say capitalism is a middle ground which allows economic freedom for others. Let's say I accept that for argument purposes.

Now your last paragraph... this is where you get it wrong. A system is a system... it does not show favoritism. People show favoritism.

Socialism removes economic freedom in an attempt to make outcomes fair and supposedly squash the elites. However, you really give the elites more power because they fly above the economic levels that will squash the masses into a low level collective mediocrity. People run these systems. The elites will buy favor in socialism just like they do in capitalism.

At least with capitalism, others have the chance to break into elite status. Not with socialism however...
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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And just to show the destructive nature of capitalism. The woman has sacrificed herself to live in the excesses of capitalism to prove a point. May God protect this brave poor soul from the evils of capitalism that the bad orange man has unleashed upon us all.


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and AOC is the biggest nut case even elected to public office. She makes Trump look like a great hero. Having different view is one thing, having nutty views not being able to back up any thing you say and trying to convince the people you grew up in poverty or close is miss representing yourself.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:59 AM
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Wrong. Capitalism is opportunity.
That's what gives everyone the opportunity to be successful or a skell.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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“Free trade bad. We decide who deserves what.”
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Socialism is a parasite off Capitalism. It would die if Capitalist didn't earn earn a living.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Its the best system that still allows the people with immense power to keep hold of their power. But the elites are always seeking permanent oligarchy, just like during feudal times. Capitalism is a middle ground, as the people at the top knows that they will destroy the economy completely if they dont allow economic freedom for their challengers/the people.

If they follow their greedy urges to seek permanent dynastic rule, the nation would be destroyed. So the elites have to balance their quest for unlimited power with half-measured attempts at what we knows brings wealth; fighting corruption and investing in the people regardless of their class and giving people more freedom and increasing social mobility in society.

A system that does not see preserving the power and status of the elite as the top priority and purely focuses on economic efficiency and freedom would be the best system.
Many US elites do just that.

See Big pharma
See exclusives on out of patent medicines
See free stadiums for pro sports
See squashing of right to fix laws
See the cable/phone company dualopoly
See certificate of need
See...
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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Alexandria O' Crazy
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:19 AM
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Unfortunately, we actually need the wealthy and elites to keep the ball rolling.
And it does make my skin crawl to say that because they are pretty much the biggest scumbags on the planet and just terrible excuses for human beings, but still a necessary evil.
The big bad rich folk are what create jobs and corporate ladders and the opportunity for people to climb those ladders if they are ambitious enough. Or at a minimum, have any job at all, no matter how menial. Some money in your pocket is better than no money at all.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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Get over your envy. Why should she live under a bridge if she can afford an apartment?
She needs to practice what she preaches.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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Blah Blah Blah... Americans Reichwingers again having no clue.

AOC and Bernie and dozens of others in congress, like and want the Scandinavian modell... A highly capitalistic economy with a strong safety net.


Just keep claiming they are Communist.. and see they win more and more votes, because you can't stop lying and miss inform.
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