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Old 02-20-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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States shocked into action by democrat support for infanticide are passing heartbeat bills to counter it.

Its a major issue and states exercising states rights are at the forefront of deciding where they want to stand.


'Heartbeat' bills gaining momentum in several states, including Kentucky and Mississippi
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hea...several-states

Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant has vowed to sign a "heartbeat" abortion bill that was passed by state legislators last Wednesday. Kentucky passed a similar bill a day later. And Texas state lawmakers are also pushing to advance a similar bill in the coming weeks or months.

Florida, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississipi, Missouri, Ohio, South Carolina and West Virginia are among the states that have either passed "heartbeat" legislation or are hoping to do so. This comes as states like New York, New Mexico, Maryland, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Virginia, among other Democratic-leaning states, are supporting bills that allow abortion up to the moment of birth.

Ohio House Passes Bill to Criminalize Abortions of Fetuses With a Heartbeat
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/h...beat-bill.html
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Unfortunately, the court system seems to be in favor of killing babies. Everytime a State tries to restrict it, the courts rule against them.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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Unfortunately, the court system seems to be in favor of killing babies. Everytime a State tries to restrict it, the courts rule against them.
As long as there are people who think a life is worth something they will continue to fight in the courts.

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, has vowed to sign the legislation that is expected to pass in March. He said he believes it will be ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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And all will be struck down in court. As they should be.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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As long as there are people who think a life is worth something they will continue to fight in the courts.

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, has vowed to sign the legislation that is expected to pass in March. He said he believes it will be ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court.
Kasich is rabid anti-choice and he chose not to sign the bill previously because it will just cost Ohio taxpayers a bunch of money only to have it struck down by the SC......as it will and should be.

As anti-choicers well know, many women may not even realize they are pregnant by the 6 th week, when a fetal "hearbeat" could be detected.

What are sexually active women supposed to do, take one or two pregnancy tests every month just in case?....if so, the government should be required to supply free pregnancy tests.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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I live in Ohio. Anti-abortion nuts have been pushing a "heart beat" bill here for nearly a decade. It is not new.



I also remember one in MS as well many years ago.



I'll note that I've not seen anything in a bill about "infanticide" or support of infanticide. Mostly just conservative propaganda that you all are running with in order to deny families who have terminally ill babies, that they wanted, to be forced to deliver them.



The comments by the VA governor that are being used in these propaganda postings/videos were about a fetus being born with a terminally ill condition. Parents can and do choose often not to provide life sustaining assistance to a baby born with life threatening defects like anencephaly or severe trisomy-X or others.



Due to the proliferation of the internet, I've been fortunate to meet many wonderful "internet" moms via mothering/parenting/pregnancy forums and unfortunately quite a few of the women I know via these social medias have experienced the tragedy of finding out their wanted child/baby would be born with a terminal defect or a severe chromosomal deficiency. Many of them wanted to deliver and donate any viable organs to save another baby, but with certain conditions of the ill fetus, their organs cannot be donated so they had to decide whether to terminate the pregnancy or to go through labor to deliver a dead baby or one that would die soon after birth. Some did deliver and some chose to end the pregnancy to save themselves further heartbreak. I can respect either decision and it is sad that so many of you on the right are inserting your personal POVs into these sorts of scenarios that are devastating to families and that are very rare to occur.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Religious over reach again? Look, reproduction is an imperfect process and sometimes it's kinder to abort even late term, than it is to put a mother and a terminal baby through that nightmare. Lets not even talk about the expense and the uninsured. Is it ideal? Heck no, but it's necessary. Lets say your 12 year old daughter is brutally raped and becomes pregnant. Would you want to put her through the additional trauma of child birth? I've written about some one I know who had ovarian cancer while pregnant. Was she supposed to go through with the pregnancy with a small child and husband at home that needed her? Why would her life be of any less importance than an unborn fetus?

Emotional thinkers get spoon fed a steady diet of perfect full term babies being aborted and demand that all babies be born regardless of circumstances? No way. Mind your own business. Not everyone believes in your way of thinking and never will. Forcing religious rhetoric into anyone's way of life is no better than an Isis Caliphate.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Unfortunately, the court system seems to be in favor of killing babies. Everytime a State tries to restrict it, the courts rule against them.
There is not a single state in which you can have a colloquial term version of an abortion.

The medical term seems to mean ending a pregnancy which includes a birth that could kill the mother that happens to only be found late in the pregnancy.

It is sad that we cant have honest discussions about this, but instead pretend these people want to kill babies.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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States shocked into action by democrat support for infanticide are passing heartbeat bills to counter it.

Its a major issue and states exercising states rights are at the forefront of deciding where they want to stand.


'Heartbeat' bills gaining momentum in several states, including Kentucky and Mississippi
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hea...several-states

Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant has vowed to sign a "heartbeat" abortion bill that was passed by state legislators last Wednesday. Kentucky passed a similar bill a day later. And Texas state lawmakers are also pushing to advance a similar bill in the coming weeks or months.

Florida, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississipi, Missouri, Ohio, South Carolina and West Virginia are among the states that have either passed "heartbeat" legislation or are hoping to do so. This comes as states like New York, New Mexico, Maryland, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Virginia, among other Democratic-leaning states, are supporting bills that allow abortion up to the moment of birth.

Ohio House Passes Bill to Criminalize Abortions of Fetuses With a Heartbeat
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/h...beat-bill.html
The irony in these heartbeat bills is the text: "unless woman has been diagnosed with a condition that would create a serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function if the woman delayed terminating her pregnancy."

Which is basically what the NY etc abortion bills also say.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Unfortunately, the court system seems to be in favor of killing babies. Everytime a State tries to restrict it, the courts rule against them.

Fortunately, the court system doesn't buy into the hyperbolic BS being spread like the false accusations of people sanctioning infanticide.
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