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Old 04-05-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by exm View Post
He needed to release something since everyone was waiting for an 'initial' conclusion. You think if he would have sat on it while writing the summary the media and dems would go nuts? On Monday they would have subpoenaed him.
Why wouldn't he just release the summaries that the Mueller team prepared exactly for sharing?

Why did he even have to share his own interpretations?

 
Old 04-05-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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This campaign of pretending that Barr has said it and that settles it is ridiculous.

If Barr is telling the truth, then back it up with the actual report. Otherwise, team Trump is just whistling in the wind.
Wonder why Barr had to rewrite Mueller's summary? Any kind of lengthy investigative or otherwise report typically includes an executive summary right at the beginning of the report.

I'm pretty sure Mr. Mueller included an executive summary.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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You gotta wonder why Barr continues to block a report that completely exonerates the president.....


Oh wait.
WH FIXER.

Really fixed Americas wagon.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Its clear that Barr is hiding stuff. If he didn't he would have released the entire report. And now that a few of Mueller's team are coming forward confirming that there's more substantial material in it and that Barr seems to have intentionally tamped that down to me is fairly damning.

One way or another we will get to the truth. Trump so far has been lucky and has had a lot of people, including his own party, protecting him by suppression and obstruction. If it turns out that yes- Barr prevented pertinent information that paints a different story than he initially released then he should be tried for obstruction of justice.



A few people care anonymously to the NYT and have vague allegations . That’s not enough to change anything. Sorry
 
Old 04-05-2019, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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yep, the AP is definitely not a reliable source
"Barr" is not a reliable source, regardless of who quoted him. Quit pretending you don't know what I said.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Are you guys serious?


First it was 'Mueller The Savior', 'Protect the Savior', 'Mueller Time'. Then Trump hires a new AG who's highly respected, has a good relationship with Mueller (Mueller used to work for Bar) and is a previous AG. The report comes out, but not to the liking of the liberals so it's all a cover-up!


Trust me, if Barr misrepresents the facts Mueller himself will testify so. He'll go in front of Congress for sure.


What's happening now is simply due diligence before releasing the report. Liberals are going way overboard and it WILL backfire.
Coming soon to a House Chamber near you.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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There does not need to be a crime for the Congress to impeach and remove him from office..... another Civics lesson for you.
Absolutely correct. "High crimes and misdemeanors" are not spelled out. They are whatever the House of Representatives decide they are.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Couple of things.

1. Do you understand how a special counsel works? How Grand Jury work? It's impossible the release the entire report without jeopardizing sources and grand jury procedures, and it's also illegal. The argument that the judiciary committee should see it? You know as well as I do that everything that is even borderline dubious will be leaked. The report is being worked on by Mueller, Barr and Rosenstein. They will release as much as possible.
2. Trump is lucky? Let me ask you: how luck is Hillary Clinton she got away with everything? It's called politics. Besides, I don't think Trump obstructed justice. First of all, there's no underlying crime so what's there to obstruct? Secondly, firing Comey is within his constitutional right as POTUS.
Couple of things:

1) Regardless of your thoughts on the matter, the Mueller report, unreacted, will eventually be released to the House Judiciary and likely the House Intelligence Committee, also the Gang of Eight. There is simply no legal way around that. Congress has a Constitutionally mandated oversight role. They cannot do that without the necessary information.

2) Clinton has nothing to do with this. Republicans held hearings on her for years, had two years to investigate and charge her. Nothing. Chanting "Lock her up," is not how this works.

3) The argument that people cannot be prosecuted for obstruction of justice if they didn't participate in an underlying crime is both silly and unmoored from any case law.

"The federal law against obstruction of justice, a felony, is written broadly and applies to pending investigations. It can cover anyone who “corruptly … endeavors to influence, obstruct or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States.”

https://www.latimes.com/politics/was...htmlstory.html

4) Trump stating that he fired Comey because of this "Russia thing," makes clear that he fired Comey because of the investigation. Firing someone to impede an investigation is evidence of obstruction of justice.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You mean like all those anonymous sources, that say...someone told someone who knew a few people that are or had worked for mueller, said they are mad? A reliable source like that?
All media outlets use anonymous sources. NYT would not print a story from someone they couldn't identify. There have, of course, been occasions where the sources were incorrect, but usually if it is published on that level, it's pretty solid stuff.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Barr wrote a memo out of left field a few months ago criticizing the Mueller investigation for looking into obstruction of justice, then he claims there was no obstruction of justice based on the Mueller report. He also criticized the make up of Mueller's team and claimed a special prosecutor would better serve us by investigating the Uranium One deal. Does that sound like an independent and respected attorney.


He should have done screened the report period, there was no need for the Barr summary before releasing the report, he sounds political. What exactly was the point if his memo other than creating more confusion.


Tell me, what was the point in firing Sessions and hiring Barr.
To keep Rosenstein from turning the report over to the House.
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