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Old 03-16-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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- they were trying to find a balance between cutting CO2 as much as possible, .
not true...there is an entire list of countries that could increase their emissions

China was on that list...and since the UN/IPCC was formed, has increased their emissions 3 fold...they are now emitting twice the CO2 we are...and the IPCC still says they are developing

http://folk.uio.no/roberan/img/GCB20...rojections.png
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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I'm going to keep on pursuing the truth. And when politicians come out and say they want to use climate change as a lever for economic and social justice, I understand it was never about science, it's about installing socialism on a global scale. No thanks.

You can live your life in fear of a changed planet, I choose to see things for what they are.

You know...I could almost respect these AGW cargo cultists if they just acknowledged that the gig (incorrect usage; the word usually used in that context begins with a "j") was up and admitted to the fact that the whole stinking charade was part and parcel of a quest for new streams of revenue for government.

I mean...that would represent some refreshing honesty, for once. But while I would welcome that measure of honesty, I surely don't expect it to happen.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Yeah, but that's weather, right?
No, not weather...Rising seas is not weather...Increasing acidification of the seas is not weather...disappearing ice is not weather.... Melting permafrost is not weather

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You control FREAKS are citing predictions 12, and 30 years out.
I'm no control freak, and simply accept the science.

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Charlatans you are, the lot of you brainwashed leftists!
Not leftist....I'm independent and am not a member of any political party.....Your entire post is bordering on a personal attack...Stop it.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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not true...there is an entire list of countries that could increase their emissions

China was on that list...and since the UN/IPCC was formed, has increased their emissions 3 fold...they are now emitting twice the CO2 we are...and the IPCC still says they are developing

http://folk.uio.no/roberan/img/GCB20...rojections.png
Per capita the USA emits more than twice (15.53 tons) as much CO2 as China,(6.59 tons) on top of that China has more than four times the population of the US....

By the way I'd like to see that list of countries that could increase their emissions.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:54 PM
 
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LOL. Keep saying that your children will have to find out first hand who was right, so if you are willing to gamble on their lives keep on.

By the way NO ONE is debating that climate changes over centuries, but it’s not changing over centuries right now as I said go right ahead and keep your head in the sand. Extinction may be what this planet needs
I personally do not believe humans have the capacity to impact the planet in such a drastic way, but Im a little confused by the many people who do believe this, and they truly believe the world will be some terrible place for their grandchildren...but they are not really doing anything about it, well, they come online and talk about it, but seems to me, if I believed something was a huge threat to my grandchildrens world, I would be doing anything I could to SHUT IT DOWN ASAP, if that meant trying desperately to get the car companies shut down, or bankrupt, or a host of other things I could be doing!! I surely would NOT be worried about being 'inconvenienced' or taking too much of a risk...after all, this is my grandchildrens lives at stake!!
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:00 PM
 
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The climate has always been slowly changing but there is no existential climate crisis and the climate also doesn't care that you think there is.
You use the word "slow" as if this is accurate.

This rate of change is not normal historically.
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Old 03-16-2019, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I personally do not believe humans have the capacity to impact the planet in such a drastic way, but Im a little confused by the many people who do believe this, and they truly believe the world will be some terrible place for their grandchildren...but they are not really doing anything about it, well, they come online and talk about it, but seems to me, if I believed something was a huge threat to my grandchildrens world, I would be doing anything I could to SHUT IT DOWN ASAP, if that meant trying desperately to get the car companies shut down, or bankrupt, or a host of other things I could be doing!! I surely would NOT be worried about being 'inconvenienced' or taking too much of a risk...after all, this is my grandchildrens lives at stake!!
What do you mean "not really doing anything about it"? Individually there is little we can do other than reduce our carbon foot print....Many industries are making some progress but it will be up to people in power to make the major changes needed....The fact that one of the largest emitters of CO2 has a global warming denier as it's leader is not helping. In spite of that the US is making progress...

52,000 large wind turbines in 41 states now generate twice as much electricity as in 2010.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/...dly-across-us/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_..._United_States

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Old 03-16-2019, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Since forever. What you eat is what you are- what you put in, is what you put out. Common sense tells you if you are raping the seas, blowing up stuff, polluting the natural flow of waters and and smoking like a chimenea into the atmosphere- something’s gotta give ! Action= reaction. I saw those slabs of ice I. Nebraska floating down Main Street and 2/3 earthquakes in the Fl panhandle this week. Now we talk about vortex and bomb cyclones. Almost all hurricanes are 4 or 5 now- not to speak of the hell fire on earth. Extreme weather is here to stay.
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Old 03-16-2019, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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You use the word "slow" as if this is accurate.

This rate of change is not normal historically.

You would be absolutely correct IF you said the rate of change is not normal compared to the historical record. What that means is IF the scam artist scientists hadn't "adjusted" the measured temperature data, cooling the past and warming the recent years, the proclaimed record high temperatures we are supposedly currently having still wouldn't be as warm as it was in 1934-1936.


I suspect someone will bring this up with President Trump's new climate panel and they will demand a full and comprehensive audit be performed on the GISS data. Then after they find out what we already know to have occurred to that data, you can bet your tail that these scam artists, these frauds posing as climate scientists, will be indicted for the FRAUD they've perpetrated upon the citizens of this nation.


Those indictments will not repair the damage their lies, fraud and deceit have already done BUT it WILL stop the hemorrhaging this country is going through due to those scientists' agenda driven BS. Judith Curry is already testifying before congressional committees. She'll keep on doing it. She, Will Happer, Richard Lindzen, Ross McKitrick and so many others will be testifying and producing evidence of scientific studies which outright falsify the fraudulent scientists' papers used by the IPCC, evidence of data tampering, evidence of collusion, evidence of silencing scientists who did not go along with the demanded alarmist agenda, and a whole lot more. There are going to be some climate alarmists who will wind up in prison over this. Mark my words.



Just you wait and see what happens. My prediction is being made at just past midnight CDT, Sunday morning on March 17, 2019. I predict indictments will occur before the next Presidential election in 2020. I would be surprised if some of them aren't charged with RICO Act violations. At a minimum there will be conspiracy to defraud charges.


But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
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Old 03-17-2019, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You would be absolutely correct IF you said the rate of change is not normal compared to the historical record. What that means is IF the scam artist scientists hadn't "adjusted" the measured temperature data, cooling the past and warming the recent years, the proclaimed record high temperatures we are supposedly currently having still wouldn't be as warm as it was in 1934-1936.
The year 1934 was a very hot year in the United States, ranking sixth behind 2012, 2016, 2015, 2006, and 1998. However, global warming takes into account temperatures over the entire planet, including the oceans.

Nobody tampered with the temperature records.. https://www.skepticalscience.com/CRU...ature-data.htm


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I suspect someone will bring this up with President Trump's new climate panel and they will demand a full and comprehensive audit be performed on the GISS data. Then after they find out what we already know to have occurred to that data, you can bet your tail that these scam artists, these frauds posing as climate scientists, will be indicted for the FRAUD they've perpetrated upon the citizens of this nation.
The data has been reviewed and is fine. https://www.skepticalscience.com/CRU...ature-data.htm


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Those indictments will not repair the damage their lies, fraud and deceit have already done BUT it WILL stop the hemorrhaging this country is going through due to those scientists' agenda driven BS. Judith Curry is already testifying before congressional committees. She'll keep on doing it. She, Will Happer, Richard Lindzen, Ross McKitrick and so many others will be testifying and producing evidence of scientific studies which outright falsify the fraudulent scientists' papers used by the IPCC, evidence of data tampering, evidence of collusion, evidence of silencing scientists who did not go along with the demanded alarmist agenda, and a whole lot more. There are going to be some climate alarmists who will wind up in prison over this. Mark my words.
There will be no indictments, except perhaps for the list of climate change deniers you've just mentioned.



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Just you wait and see what happens. My prediction is being made at just past midnight CDT, Sunday morning on March 17, 2019. I predict indictments will occur before the next Presidential election in 2020. I would be surprised if some of them aren't charged with RICO Act violations. At a minimum there will be conspiracy to defraud charges.


But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
Your prediction has even less value than your opinion....Sorry.
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