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Old 03-19-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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Although the guises may differ, people who study history are no less doomed to repeat it than those who don’t. The reason for this circumstance is not so mystifying once we are prepared to acknowledge that the apprehension of death, and the necessity to mitigate that apprehension, always has and always will prompt and shape virtually every human activity. If our responses to the prospect of death can, for sure, be benign and creative—can, for example, result in works of art that will survive our demise—they are, as often as not, malignant. And this is a grim reality that despite lessons from the past we are compelled to perpetuate.


Let me try to explain.


When F. Scott Fitzgerald remarked that ”In [the] dark night of the soul it is always three o’clock in the morning,” he was talking about the fundamental burden of human existence, of the terror that inhabits a life that is aware of its fate. To live with just a modicum of equanimity that terror has to be managed, and what we do to this end is we bury it. We repress it. But notwithstanding our success at repressing an all consuming death dread—even to the point of becoming apparently heedless of death’s inevitability—our trepidation never entirely disappears. Indeed, it remains subconsciously constant and dynamic and, however incognizant we may be of its processes and consequences, it is the determining force behind all manner of destructive behavior.


Simply put, beings who know they will die cannot withstand extended periods of amity. Unable to confront the ultimate evil of death directly, it’s essential to have enemies, enemies that can be confronted. We need, that is, human surrogates for evil who are at the very least potentially vanquishable. Persons of races, cultures, religions, nationalities and sexual orientations different from ours serve this purpose well. Through our hostile engagement with these designated embodiments of evil, we simulate what constitute symbolic struggles with death, struggles that absorb and preoccupy us and that allow us, when we win, to experience the pleasure of securing what feels like a victory over death. Pleasure, as Epicurus noted, is the absence of pain, and pain is definable not merely as physical suffering but also as fear and anxiety. The eradication of manufactured adversaries affords us the sensation of killing our own death.


Of course, since the basic problem still exists, our elation in these contrived instances is transitory. It wears off. We are forced then to make new enemies. (When we lose we may feel as good as dead, may enter a profound depression that will not lift until we identify fresh villains with whom to do combat. And while I’m in the aside of a parentheses, I don’t think it’s farfetched to suggest that what we really mean by the “social contract” is the unspoken agreement to supply one another with antagonists for the battle with mortality.)


Born in 1939, only a couple of decades after the “war to end all wars,” I’ve been a witness to World War Two, the Holocaust, the dropping of the atom bomb, the Korean War, the Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam, not to mention 9/11, the invasion of Iraq, genocides, assassinations and countless mass murders. All of these travesties were intended to enable their perpetrators to deny their abominable destinies. The Donald Trump administration is among the most current of such travesties. Should I last a little longer I’m quite likely to attend the disintegration of democracy itself.


In the prominent case of Trump, and following what I’ve attempted to describe, we can clearly see why he ascended to the presidency in 2016 and why (barring genuinely intolerable investigative revelations—I write this in late winter of 2019) he may yet win again in 2020.


What Trump did was address our very deepest requirement, the necessity to mollify the anticipation of extinction. He accomplished this by providing scapegoats for our untenable predicament. Mexicans, Muslims and an "illegitimate" black president were responsible for the jeopardy in which we find ourselves. His posture in this respect was, I’d argue, more crucial to his election than his promises of jobs and economic security. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, offered programs and policies that, devoid of monsters posing existential threats, were limited to the wholly rational. Contrary to how it may often appear, people do vote in their best interest. Hillary failed to recognize what, at bottom, we truly want.


I don’t know what man made horrors await the planet in the coming years. I do know that they’ll be impervious to history, that they'll be abundant and that the unacceptability of death will be at their root.

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Old 03-19-2019, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Nice post.

Simply put:
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The wall addresses a core psychological insecurity. Trump supporters — and many others — feel as if their own privileges are evaporating. Those privileges are connected to race and gender (the angry white men who now swell the ranks of the Republican Party).
https://fpif.org/the-psychology-of-the-wall/
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Yawwwwn....
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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What Trump did was run against Hillary. If he had run against someone more suitable he would not be President.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:38 AM
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Well-done, OP.

It does seem we as humans try to identify our "tribe" or "team", and ally with them to fight the other tribes and teams to take their property.

That's why football, soccer, and basketball are enormously popular. It's one team against another, trying to invade the other team's territory.

It may be a more male perspective than female. I fully think women try to identify allies and connect to help each other out for the greater good of the allies, in general, which is slightly different from allying to fight the opponents.

But yes. Humans will never live peaceably.

"Marta was watching the football game with me when she said, "You know, most of these sports are based on the idea of one group protecting its territory from invasion by another group." "Yeah," I said, trying not to laugh. Girls are funny".- Jack Handy

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Old 03-19-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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WW2 was Trump's fault, and was caused by angry white men.
C'mon....
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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WW2 was Trump's fault, and was caused by angry white men.
C'mon....
Obviously this thread is much too complicated for you.

Maybe this is why trump supporters like the idea of wall so much. Wall not a complicated concept and can be easily be colored in a Bob the Builder coloring book.

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Old 03-19-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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Fkn white males
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Been watching a lot of "The City on the Edge of Forever" (too lazy to switch out the DVD) and there is a section of Kirk agrees with Edith that someday, they will stop using all that money for war and death and use it for peace.


To that, I am reminded of what I was once told about LBJ, where he told Ho Chi Mihn, "Now, look, if you stop this nonsense, I will take all this money that I am trying to kill you with and use it to improve your country.". Ho Chi Mihn was not interested because he didn't want North Vietnam but rather, a unified Vietnam.


So it was said.......


One has to realize that what people want in the end can be a greater and perhaps even a more rightous force than peace now.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: DFW
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OP... You've seen the horrors of the Nazi's, the Communist and the extreme Socialist.

Do you want your great grand children living in a country that is being taken down a path of extreme Socialism as being promised by the current Progressive Democrat party that appears to be catching on and is now popular thought?

The current crop of Democrat Candidates can't seem to offer enough "Free" to anyone who will listen and vote for them. As we know, nothing is free so they must take from the people who have and give it free to those who have been promised. They offer no opportunity to achieve and get ahead. This is one step from being Communist.

As far as an an "Illegitimate President"... give me a break. You and the other Liberals have been screaming this since 2 am Nov 8 2016.

What a load of crap.
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