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Old 03-21-2019, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Really? How did Hillary manage to get more popular votes? what is going to happen when we no longer have the electoral college?

States, like California, will turn a blind eye to cheating because it will give them greater say in who is elected president.

That's the reason the Founders set it up the way they did with no incentive for states to allow cheating.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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States, like California, will turn a blind eye to cheating because it will give them greater say in who is elected president.

That's the reason the Founders set it up the way they did with no incentive for states to allow cheating.
If there's no incentive for cheating when it comes to voting, why does the GOP do so much of it? Unfounded accusations against Democrats pale in comparison to actual fraud committed by Republicans.

Why North Carolina's Election Fraud Case Hurts Democracy | Time
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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If there's no incentive for cheating when it comes to voting, why does the GOP do so much of it? Unfounded accusations against Democrats pale in comparison to actual fraud committed by Republicans.

Why North Carolina's Election Fraud Case Hurts Democracy | Time


trump kin alert!

A dose of reality!
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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LOl! I had to laugh out loud when I read these idiotic comments below.


"The democrats who want to abolish ICE want to do so because they aren't afraid of illegal immigrants.

Republicans ARE afraid of abolishing ICE because they ARE afraid of illegal immigrants".

I guess we should abolish our laws on murder, theft, etc.and disband our LE just because it means you fear those who commit those crimes and of course it's not reasonable to fear being killed or robbed (insert rolling eyes here). Those who don't want those laws enforced and want LE disbanded are just brave souls to be admired. lol! Just when you think you've read the lamest comments this one takes the cake! Holy cow!
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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Who said anything about 1955?
We want a border wall , law and order and don’t want socialism.
That means we want to go back to 1955?

Also I live in the second most populated city in America . Not everyone in cities supports open borders and socialism .
I don't get that stupid claim by the left either. There were some good things about the 50's and some bad things. I'd only want to return to the good things about it which doesn't include racism against blacks or any other minorities just for starters.

As you said, what's wrong with border walls to deter illegal entry? What's wrong with all the able bodied to support themselves rather than the taxpayer doing it and only helping the truly needy?
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:18 AM
 
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TDS combined with large daily doses of alcohol causes entertainment.
I am a Trump supporter and I don't hate gays, minorities and non-Christians that aren't radicals here to harm us and immigrants who come here legally. No one is trying to force society back 70 years to the bad parts of it. There were however some good things about the 50's and that is what I would embrace not the bad things and that's true of most conservatives in spite of the lies that the left spout. Yes, TDS along with childish, lying smears of an entire group of Americans is truly despicable and what is dividing our country.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Every Time Democrats Talk, I Want To Vote For Trump Twice

I am a highly motivated Trump voter because the Democrats have motivated me up to my eyeballs. I have never been more motivated in my life, because the Democrats are terrifying me.

this is a political forum and one of the reasons some of us participate in POC is we try to understand the perspectives of the 'other side'. The Federalist opinion piece above is a perfect reflection of my thinking. the best I've read so far that explains my thoughts in this political climate.

whether you are on the other side of the aisle or on my side, it is an interesting opinion piece. I would like to hear your thoughts after you read it.
One thing the article brings up is what I have been saying for a while now: Every time a new scandal breaks about Trump, Democrats want to shout, "See! We told you he's a vile, lying egomaniac!" Thing is, by now everyone knows this. You either care or don't care. You either love him or hate him. No new revelation of bad behavior is going to change anybody's mind.

In 2016, Hillary won the popular vote. She won the densely populated east and west coast urban areas. She lost the electoral college because she lost everything in between, the so-called Heartland. Whether Dems nominate Warren, Harris, Booker, Sanders or O'Rourke, can you imagine the outcome being any different than it was for Clinton? Biden is probably the only one with half a chance. I wish that I was wrong about this, because I detest Trump and would vote for a rotten turnip before I'd vote for him.

Of course, if the economy tanks before election day, the above is irrelevant. Trump will lose to whomever.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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If there's no incentive for cheating when it comes to voting, why does the GOP do so much of it? Unfounded accusations against Democrats pale in comparison to actual fraud committed by Republicans.

Why North Carolina's Election Fraud Case Hurts Democracy | Time
So because it was done by this Republican, your assuming they all do? Great reasoning.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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So because it was done by this Republican, your assuming they all do? Great reasoning.
Hi, I'd like to introduce you to this thread, along with all the others here in the POC forum, where "Democrats" are blamed for everything a single individual person does
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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so Dems don't want to abolish ICE even though they have claimed it many times?
ICE is an umbrella office which combines several pre-existing functions since the 9/11 attacks, in that time we also had the Patriot Act, NSA surveillance, attacking Iraq and all of that stuff. It may be time to roll back some of these changes wrought from the panic of that time.

There are people who feel it would be better to separate the functions gathered up under the 'ICE' organization, which has tended to acquire the patina of a 'Gestapo'-like service and can be rather abusive. Abolishing ICE is not the same as abolishing the functions of the various departments. They could return to their own former structures.

I myself am indifferent to it.
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