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Old 04-05-2019, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I am considering leaving society and living alone in solitude away from people. I'd like to also escape the capitalist system.

How can I do so and live comfortably with basic essentials like food, water, and shelter?

You'd probably have better luck getting answers on the Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness forum.


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Old 04-05-2019, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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nope. you can get a cistern and be just fine.
make sure it's not your own, but someone else's sistern
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I am considering leaving society and living alone in solitude away from people. I'd like to also escape the capitalist system.
Your personal prejudice here is likely the biggest contributor to your discontent.

Every society relies on the workings of the markets to at least some degree, and the biggest dissenters (Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea) have some of the most repressive regimes and lowest living standards. Living "off the grid" (not completely possible anywhere) is one thing; living in a supposedly-egalitarian communistic society is quite another, and you might find out that even some "simple" things taken for granted here simply aren't attainable there.

Before you get too serious about this, you might want to read Walden on Wheels by Ken Ilgunas, who pursued graduate study at Duke University while living in a van in a parking lot; Mr. Ilgunas also saved up some of the funds for his project by working in a remote part of Alaska prior to his "experiment".

I sihncerely wish you luck, but I suspect you're in for an eye-opening experience.

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Old 04-05-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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All land on Earth belongs to one government or another, and no matter what anyone tells you, nobody owns land in this world, they rent it from government. So even if you go totally medieval in some remote wilderness, you're doing it on some government's land and whenever they feel like effing with you, they will. Now, find a spot truly godawful and stay off anyone's radar and you'd probably be OK, but you'll always be on someone else's land.

You can escape society on the water, almost. But to charge the battery, replace fuel, stock potable water, get food other than marine life protein, remove waste, do repairs, etc...that all happens with both money and interacting with society. And boat living can be hard.

Now, with a proper amount of money, you could sea-stead outside any 12 mile sovereignty borders in shallow ocean, which like 4 people ever have managed. But that will require investment of time and money, and eventually, you will deal with society even if just intermittently and briefly.
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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All land on Earth belongs to one government or another, and no matter what anyone tells you, nobody owns land in this world, they rent it from government. So even if you go totally medieval in some remote wilderness, you're doing it on some government's land and whenever they feel like effing with you, they will. Now, find a spot truly godawful and stay off anyone's radar and you'd probably be OK, but you'll always be on someone else's land.

You can escape society on the water, almost. But to charge the battery, replace fuel, stock potable water, get food other than marine life protein, remove waste, do repairs, etc...that all happens with both money and interacting with society. And boat living can be hard.

Now, with a proper amount of money, you could sea-stead outside any 12 mile sovereignty borders in shallow ocean, which like 4 people ever have managed. But that will require investment of time and money, and eventually, you will deal with society even if just intermittently and briefly.
What if I have a shiny deed for my home? Stamped by the government and everything?

There's nothing they can do about that!

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Old 04-05-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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For many, happiness is not a choice. Depression is a real thing. In another thread, the OP states he has severe depression. If happiness were indeed a choice for everyone, wouldn't more people choose happiness? I know I would
when typing I came very close to adding the caveat of depression.... I concede the point and did not know of the OPs identification of depression.


I fully concede that depression is real. My comment was directly related to those who are not suffering from clinical depression.
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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I am considering leaving society and living alone in solitude away from people. I'd like to also escape the capitalist system.

How can I do so and live comfortably with basic essentials like food, water, and shelter?

Take the red pill... or was it the blue pill? I always get the two confused and sadly I took 6 of the red pills and 6 of the blue pills so I am stuck between a crony capitalist society, a socialist society, a Marxist society seeking to be a communist society, an anarcho-capitalist society and flat out anarchy.

So what does that mean? It means the toilet paper company paid off the government in order to get the government to regulate the type of toilet paper I can have. Then the government took over the toilet paper company. Then the employees of the toilet paper company decided to go after the greedy owners of the toilet paper company because they weren't paying a fair wage, and they killed the owners. Then the new owners of the toilet paper company decided that each person needs no more than a single sheet of single ply toilet paper per day, telling them to fold that sheet multiple times if they need to use the toilet more than once... and now I just wipe my ass with leaves and my hands, praying the leaf I used wasn't poison ivy, poison oak or poison sumac.

Just wait until I tell you about my life with milk, bread, corn, there is no beef, chicken beaks and ankles, and GOD forbid (oops I said GOD! Watch out! The thought police are probably coming for me right now) GOD forbid I should want a damn beer!
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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I am considering leaving society and living alone in solitude away from people. I'd like to also escape the capitalist system.

How can I do so and live comfortably with basic essentials like food, water, and shelter?
Obviously posting on CD is the first step...
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I am considering leaving society and living alone in solitude away from people. I'd like to also escape the capitalist system.

How can I do so and live comfortably with basic essentials like food, water, and shelter?



The only place left. You would be praying for global warming.
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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For many, happiness is not a choice. Depression is a real thing. In another thread, the OP states he has severe depression. If happiness were indeed a choice for everyone, wouldn't more people choose happiness? I know I would
Hang in there Joe.
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