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Old 04-09-2019, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by reed067 View Post
Again the right doesn’t care that their kids, grandchildren will be paying for it, same goes for the left too yet Trump keeps our debt climbing at a rate that’s faster then usual.
but its not really trump, nor the republicans, nor the democrats....


outlays are outpacing the receipts (payroll taxes, which were NOT changed)


for example
SS has been paying out more than its intake since 2007..and every year the gap is getting worse


FY17(last budget under Obama) SS outlays was 939 billion, yet receipts was only 851 billion... a difference of 88 billion...that's 88 billion in the hole (deficit)


projected is for fy22..1.2 trillion in outlays, yet 1.049t receipts


projected is for fy27..1.652 trillion in outlays, yet 1.361t receipts, so for FY27, nearly 300 (291) billion deficit just for the line item of SS


https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...get-fy2019.pdf
see page 121

 
Old 04-09-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This is what happens when you spend and don't pay for it. I'll never understand how Conservatives tricked themselves into thinking NOT paying for things was a way out of debt.
I'll never understand how EddieB.Good thinks people believe his made up garbage about conservatives. But when all the big government policies he supports are failures, the thing to do is make a troll post about conservatives. How about you look for the truth? Granted you wont find it in a big government president like Trump or Obama or Bush or ....
 
Old 04-09-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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Trump isn't just Obama's 3rd term, he's Dubya's 5th term.
Or is Trump Reagan's 10th term!
 
Old 04-09-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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It doesn't count if you're a Republican, silly.
 
Old 04-09-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Or is Trump Reagan's 10th term!
Considering the explosive growth of the federal government and the debt began under Reagan that's a good point.
 
Old 04-09-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It doesn't count if you're a Republican, silly.
Just like war crimes don't count if you're a Democrat.
 
Old 04-09-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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Because the GOP is supposed to be the party of small government, yet they are even bigger spenders than the Democrats. At least Democrats make no bones about their desire to grow government and create a welfare state; Republicans talk a good game but in reality are just as bad.

And MAGAs are the worst of both worlds.
Which has nothing to do with a increase in government spending.
 
Old 04-09-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Which has nothing to do with a increase in government spending.
It has everything to do with it. Republicans literally campaign on cutting spending, yet do nothing but increase spending. It's hypocrisy.
 
Old 04-09-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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Obama left so much to fix it was bound to cost a ton of money to straighten it out.

And of course the excuse his team used was Obama had to spend to straighten out Bush's mess. When does either party take responsibility?
Answer: the fifth of never
 
Old 04-09-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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Higher spending on half staffed government.
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