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Old 04-11-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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This is what I'm worried about.

It doesn't matter how much Trump lies, 4 in 10 Americans believe every word he says because they are so drunk on their unhinged hatred of everyone who doesn't look, think, and act like them.

I think A Handmaid's Tale or at least V for Vendetta is far closer to an actual possible future right now than most people think.

No matter how many facts are laid out, it's true.
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Old 04-11-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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Trump's mental condition is deteriorating.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:02 AM
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...d-coup-1264714


When does the President get down to the business of running the nation. In recent days he made a threat to choke off trade with Mexico without considering the economic consequences. Now he accuses Mueller and the FBI of attempting an illegal coup against his administration.

It needs to be remembered that this investigation was started with a republican leadership at the FBI, a republican house, and a republican senate.

His statement was off the wall.

Looks like the Dems have gotten their talking points ready to go.

First, the "Republican" leadership at the FBI hated Trump's guts so the fact that he was a Republican is irrelevant. Secondly, the fact that Republicans controlled both houses of Congress is also irrelevant when the White House has far, far more power to control a counter intelligence investigation than the House or Senate does.

It's interesting that Democrats are acting all outraged that an AG publically admits what has been well documented and obvious for well over a year now. Furthermore, the same Democrats who argued against the Republican led House oversight subpoenaing documents from the FBI/intelligence agencies investigation into Trump/Russian collusion as part of their oversight duties and defended the heavily redacted documents on the basis of protecting "sources and methods" now demand the Mueller report be released fully unredacted with zero regard for laws regarding the release of grand jury testimony or the "sources and methods" they were so worried about a year ago. Nevermind that Barr has repeatedly told them that as much of the report as can be legally released will be released in a matter or days. Nope, they want it NOW and fully unredacted!!! The law be damned! The hypocrisy displayed is stunning but predictable.

As for his statement being off the wall, it clearly isn't. The evidence that Trump's campaign was spied on is well documented by both congressional testimony and documents received. The info has been out there and available for over a year now but the MSM and Trump haters have will ignored it to this point. There is at the very least strong circumstantial evidence that the rules for legally obtaining a warrant to spy on Trump team members wasn't followed properly and that laws were broken in the process. Barr has every right to look into the matter to see if any federal laws were broken in the process.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Don't you just love the Leftists (like the OP). When their side is being alleged for wrongdoing, they want Trump to focus on other things but when they are doing the alleging (Russian collusion, Trump tax returns, etc.) they want all full and complete investigations into it.

The Left/Democrats are just garbage.

This executive time that Trump claims is to watch Morning Joe and Saturday Night Live and then to tweet about it endlessly through the week.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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Make no mistake of it- the FBI and the deep state attempted to undermine and overthrow Trump. If the rule of law was followed, many would be currently tried for treason.
Hogwash. There is zero evidence of any illegal or unwarranted spying on Trump or his campaign. Even Barr said he is not aware of any improperly justified surveillance.

When intelligence monitors a Russian agent, if there's an American on the other end of the line, that American becomes an incidental target or intercept. If anyone associated with a presidential campaign doesn't want to be an incidental target, then don't pal around with Russian agents or borrow millions from neo-mafia Russian oligarchs. Pretty simple, really.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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New Attempted Coup Accusation by the President


That guy needs to adjust his medication.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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... There is zero evidence of any illegal or unwarranted spying on Trump or his campaign. Even Barr said he is not aware of any improperly justified surveillance.
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Exactly.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...d-coup-1264714


When does the President get down to the business of running the nation. In recent days he made a threat to choke off trade with Mexico without considering the economic consequences. Now he accuses Mueller and the FBI of attempting an illegal coup against his administration.

It needs to be remembered that this investigation was started with a republican leadership at the FBI, a republican house, and a republican senate.

His statement was off the wall.


Captain Queeg must really be getting paranoid. Gotta wonder when he'll start whinin' about the strawberries.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There's been so much crap bandied about in the 2 years that it's hard to keep up but I'm pretty sure that Trump's "tapping" claims were investigated and proven to be false.


It seems like he's bring that crap out again. Agree that this is nothing more than keeping his base primed.
It was about being under surveillance. You're arguing about what model of car ran over the victim? Why?
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This is what I'm worried about.

It doesn't matter how much Trump lies, 4 in 10 Americans believe every word he says because they are so drunk on their unhinged hatred of everyone who doesn't look, think, and act like them.

I think A Handmaid's Tale or at least V for Vendetta is far closer to an actual possible future right now than most people think.
It's about the hatred of the despicable left and how they falsely play the race card. Congrats you're the exact reason why Trump is President.
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