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Old 04-14-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Border facilities are overloaded. They can't serve any more illegals claiming asylum. The next best-case solution is to send them to sanctuary cities/states to wait several years for their asylum hearings. What's the problem with that? Sanctuary cities/states have repeatedly stated they welcome illegal aliens as assets to their communities.

Here's California Governor Newsom stating exactly so:

California Governor Newsom Vows ‘Sanctuary To All Who Seek It’ In Inauguration Speech - CBS News
Most of our larger cities are overwhelmed with homelessness. When an American is homeless it's an indictment on our entire country. We owe it to the homeless to care for them. Adding immigrants to the mix sound like a smart idea to you as an American? This great Trump idea would go down in history like the Trail of Tears. Of course, Trump probably bluffed his way through American history to even recognize a similarity.
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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All immigration law is federal.

But no immigration law limits where in the US that ICE can release those that must be released.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why would they leave a sanctuary city/state? They get local taxpayer-funded freebies and they're protected from ICE even if they commit crimes. It's a best-case scenario for them.
All of what you posted is nonsense, they just don’t hold them extended periods. If you don’t like it change the federal laws or provide more agents and detention centers. So tell me how this happens, does a bus drive the illegal immigrants to a city and open the doors and what would stop them from going elsewhere. This is just appealing to the nutty right like sitting down ports of entry as if he will do any of these things. How about Trump addressing the problem other than shouting build a wall.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:31 AM
 
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Most of our larger cities are overwhelmed with homelessness. When an American is homeless it's an indictment on our entire country. We owe it to the homeless to care for them. Adding immigrants to the mix sound like a smart idea to you as an American? This great Trump idea would go down in history like the Trail of Tears. Of course, Trump probably bluffed his way through American history to even recognize a similarity.
these ‘immigrants’ are already being added. leftist federal judges have made it impossible to keep them out. trump sure as heck isn’t inviting them in.
so the only question now is, where do they put them.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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All of what you posted is nonsense, they just don’t hold them extended periods. If you don’t like it change the federal laws or provide more agents and detention centers. So tell me how this happens, does a bus drive the illegal immigrants to a city and open the doors and what would stop them from going elsewhere. This is just appealing to the nutty right like sitting down ports of entry as if he will do any of these things. How about Trump addressing the problem other than shouting build a wall.

What would stop them from going elsewhere? Wrong question. Correct question is what would motivate them to go elsewhere? If you're a migrant, would you rather be in a sanctuary city in California or a conservative city in Oklahoma?


I'm not sure but it may be that they are released on parole and conditions of release are that they remain in a certain area.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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How about Trump addressing the problem other than shouting build a wall.
Maslow's Hammer......“I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail." The wall is all he has for managing the everyday immigration issues that our country has faced for decades since Eisenhower's Presidency.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I can settle the whole mess. How about America start taking care of Americans. What a new idea that would be. It really is disgraceful, that a country like this. Has the utter gall and audacity to neglect its own. Yet the govt and plenty of Americans, are ok with people pouring in here.

Its one thing to help, its another matter when its at the expense of our own. We have far to many in the US that are barely making it. Many that are not making it. Its time we start facing that fact.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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I can settle the whole mess. How about America start taking care of Americans. What a new idea that would be. It really is disgraceful, that a country like this. Has the utter gall and audacity to neglect its own. Yet the govt and plenty of Americans, are ok with people pouring in here.
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There is a misconception propagated by Trump's piehole that his opponents want open borders like Europe. Fake news on his part. His opponents just want an orderly method of handling the immigrants from Central America - that might include working with those Central American gov'ts to handling their issues/crises causing the immigration. We've spent trillions helping Afghanistan and Iraq with nation building. It's time we help those countries to our south - especially since it obviously affects all of us.

There are other answers other than the wall with improved border security and handling asylum seekers.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What would stop them from going elsewhere? Wrong question. Correct question is what would motivate them to go elsewhere? If you're a migrant, would you rather be in a sanctuary city in California or a conservative city in Oklahoma?


I'm not sure but it may be that they are released on parole and conditions of release are that they remain in a certain area.
They to wherever there is work, if there are jobs in Oklahoma they will go there and don't tell me someone who just traveled a thousand miles to get here wont go to another state, and don't tell me OK doesn't hire illegal immigrants,


Its hard to believe we are even discussing such a ridiculous idea. This is the best Trump could come up with, he's out of ideas all else fails shout Sanctuary Cities.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:28 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Most of our larger cities are overwhelmed with homelessness. When an American is homeless it's an indictment on our entire country. We owe it to the homeless to care for them. Adding immigrants to the mix sound like a smart idea to you as an American?
Ask Governor Newsom and all the other sanctuary city/state politicians that question. They openly encourage and welcome illegal aliens to come and dwell in their cities and states and protect them from ICE once they're there, even if they commit crimes.
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