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Originally Posted by Quick Enough "But the info in Vol 2 is accurate and true—-"
And what FINAL CONCLUSION DID MUELLER COME UP WITH? NO COLLUSION.
Volume 2 does NOT discuss Collusion.
Volume 2 DOES discuss Obstruction. The conclusion in Volume 2 states
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At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him
One can only conclude you have not read one page of, much less attempted to access and read, the Mueller Report and have absolutely NO FAMILIARITY whatsoever with the report. Which means your credibility is zero.
But, since we are all about bringing people up to speed, here:
Volume I examines - "RUSSIAN "ACTIVE MEASURES" SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN." Volume II examines - "FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION"
In order to be considered a serious poster, at the very least it is in your interests to read and have actual knowledge of the document under discussion. You can download a searchable copy of the Mueller report, here:
Voila!! When you next discuss this report about which you wish others to believe you know so much, you will then have a least a passing familiarity with the subject you are discussing.
You're welcome.
Last edited by Ariadne22; 04-21-2019 at 01:51 PM..
Why read an opinion from someone who didn’t know any real “insider’ information about what Mueller had discovered?
Barr’s opinion piece is just that—
Opinion
And the only opinion he cared to entertain was Trump’s—
Which is exactly what he accomplished
And now he has gone further and mislead people about the real truth of Mueller’s Report
Barr will likely start to rein in the 12 ongoing investigations that Mueller handed off to other DOJ offices
If there are some that went to state AGs then he can’t touch those—but more than likely Mueller gave info to DoJ sources only...
Barr had a reputation that I think was falsely earned because people either forgot or didn’t know about his involvement in covering up Reagan/Bush illegal activities
Now they see him doing it for Trump
Only pro-Trump supporters can ignore what he is doing to the rule of law and the judicial system
Who knew people would regret losing Sessions so quickly...
No—“collusion” was not the term
Once again—there is evidence of plenty of “collusion”
What wasn’t discovered (maybe because the investigation was cut short) was ENOUGH evidence of CONSPIRACY....that is a legal term for a chargeable criminal offense...
This doesn't even make a lick of sense lol.
Collusion and conspiracy are the same thing. They are synonyms in the English language.
The only reason to make a distinction between them is for legal purposes of charging a crime. The relevant statute uses the word conspiracy.
There was no different amount of collusion in this case than there was conspiracy. That is just ludicrous.
There is no point in continuing to nitpick people over the interchangeable use of these terms.
Volume 2 DOES discuss Obstruction. The conclusion in Volume 2 states One can only conclude you have not read one page of, much less attempted to access and read, the Mueller Report and have absolutely NO FAMILIARITY whatsoever with the report. Which means your credibility is zero.
But, since we are all about bringing people up to speed, here:
Volume I examines - "RUSSIAN "ACTIVE MEASURES" SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN." Volume II examines - "FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION"
In order to be considered a serious poster, at the very least it is in your interests to read and have actual knowledge of the document under discussion. You can download a searchable copy of the Mueller report, here:
Voila!! When you next discuss this report about which you wish others to believe you know so much, you will then have a least a passing familiarity with the subject you are discussing.
You're welcome.
Just as Trump hasn’t read any of the report himself, his supporters won’t really go near it either in all likelihood
Imagine Donald Sutherland’s last scene in “The Bodysnatchers”...
Oh, the skewing and misrepresentation on FOX is off the charts. Barr intentionally lied about and misrepresented the Mueller Report both in his 3/24 letter and Thursday's press conference. But, one FOX commentator today in an "observing way" states Barr was the first to get the report and then comment on it and then release it with additional comments at his press conference - and, now, the Democrats are "shooting the messenger." The lies never stop on that channel. And, Mike Wallace did nothing to complete the picture on that comment. Just let it out there - "the Democrats are shooting the messenger." Well, yes, I suppose they would when the messenger is a liar.
Volume 2 DOES discuss Obstruction. The conclusion in Volume 2 states One can only conclude you have not read one page of, much less attempted to access and read, the Mueller Report and have absolutely NO FAMILIARITY whatsoever with the report. Which means your credibility is zero.
But, since we are all about bringing people up to speed, here:
Volume I examines - "RUSSIAN "ACTIVE MEASURES" SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN." Volume II examines - "FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION"
In order to be considered a serious poster, at the very least it is in your interests to read and have actual knowledge of the document under discussion. You can download a searchable copy of the Mueller report, here:
Voila!! When you next discuss this report about which you wish others to believe you know so much, you will then have a least a passing familiarity with the subject you are discussing.
You're welcome.
Reading comprehension is everything.
The quoted poster was not referencing Vol 2 she was quoting you.
Go back and read before you chastise others for not reading.
Why read an opinion from someone who didn’t know any real “insider’ information about what Mueller had discovered?
Barr’s opinion piece is just that—
Opinion
And the only opinion he cared to entertain was Trump’s—
Which is exactly what he accomplished
And now he has gone further and mislead people about the real truth of Mueller’s Report
Barr will likely start to rein in the 12 ongoing investigations that Mueller handed off to other DOJ offices
If there are some that went to state AGs then he can’t touch those—but more than likely Mueller gave info to DoJ sources only...
Barr had a reputation that I think was falsely earned because people either forgot or didn’t know about his involvement in covering up Reagan/Bush illegal activities
Now they see him doing it for Trump
Only pro-Trump supporters can ignore what he is doing to the rule of law and the judicial system
Who knew people would regret losing Sessions so quickly...
Barr’s original letter said there was no coordination or conspiracy w/ Russia & that Mueller declined to make a decision on obstruction charges — laying out evidence on both sides, not recommending charges, but also not exonerating. All of that was accurate.
Tell me how Barr is covering it up? this is how silly the left sound. Barr has been more forthcoming and open so Congress can see the full report then AG Holder and Obama under the Fast and the Furious.
Tell me how AG Barr covered for Reagan/Bush "illegal" activities? didn't Congress had hearings and they had a majority in Congress?
Oh, the skewing and misrepresentation on FOX is off the charts. Barr intentionally lied about and misrepresented the Mueller Report both in his 3/24 letter and Thursday's press conference. But, one FOX commentator today in an "observing way" states Barr was the first to get the report and then comment on it and then release it with additional comments at his press conference - and, now, the Democrats are "shooting the messenger." The lies never stop on that channel. And, Mike Wallace did nothing to complete the picture on that comment. Just let it out there - "the Democrats are shooting the messenger." Well, yes, I suppose they would when the messenger is a liar.
you are the one lying......Barr’s original letter said there was no coordination or conspiracy w/ Russia & that Mueller declined to make a decision on obstruction charges — laying out evidence on both sides, not recommending charges, but also not exonerating. All of that was accurate.
what did he lie about? Barr is happy to go to Congress again and educate the morons at the hill about what he did, the law and constitution.
Who I worry about is Mueller when goes up to the Hill. He has lots of questions to answer.
Rosenstein standing behind Barr at the press conference will live in infamy I guess
I want to see the report Mueller still has to provide to Congress that lists specific instances of when/how Rosenstein or Barr or anyone might have tried to prevent his investigation from its desired path of investigation
Perhaps he will deliver it before he goes to Congress to testify
I was sorry the press was hounding him outside church today
They should know he isn’t going to give any comment
Re Barr’s comments in the press conference and his “summary” of the Report
It would be interesting to consider how both of those public releases of information plus the fact that Barr released information to Trump’s attorneys before he did to the Congress might play into an obstruction of justice charge against Barr...
The U.S. Constitution provides that civil officers of the United States, which would include the U.S. Attorney General, may be impeached by Congress for treason, bribery or high crimes and misdemeanors.
Of course same problem exists — Congress votes the bill of impeachment then it goes to the Senate...
Oh, the skewing and misrepresentation on FOX is off the charts. Barr intentionally lied about and misrepresented the Mueller Report both in his 3/24 letter and Thursday's press conference. But, one FOX commentator today in an "observing way" states Barr was the first to get the report and then comment on it and then release it with additional comments at his press conference - and, now, the Democrats are "shooting the messenger." The lies never stop on that channel. And, Mike Wallace did nothing to complete the picture on that comment. Just let it out there - "the Democrats are shooting the messenger." Well, yes, I suppose they would when the messenger is a liar.
I think you mean CHRIS Wallace....the son
Mike Wallace, the father, would have been all over Trump from day 1...
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