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Impeachment is a purely political process, and the House of Representatives can send articles of impeachment to the floor for a vote anytime they wish for anything they want. If it makes it out of the Judiciary Committee and the Speaker decides it gets a vote, that is.
They can quite literally impeach Trump for being a big fat orange skinned meanie, and use those exact words in their articles of impeachment. It was, is and will always be a political process, not legal. Just ask the second paragraph of Federalist #65.
Everyone in the House already knows this, but they are seeking any angle to make going forward with impeachment seem like it is something totally apolitical, like doing their prosecutorial duty or something equally noble sounding. The smart Democrats who have the better survival instincts understand why impeaching him without a decently compelling legal angle is both horrible and dangerous precedent, since the Republicans have shown great skill and eagerness to hoist them upon their own administrative petards, like Harry Reid's nuclear rule for judicial appointments, for example.
I think Pelosi, for all her innumerable faults, knows where that precedent lands her party in the future, and she is loathe to pull that trigger for a guy they should be able to fairly oust in the next election.
So this is one more article trying to gin up some legal spin to coax the House Dems into cutting their own throats.
Plus, if anti-Trumpers were thinking of this properly, Trump losing an election makes him a loser. Impeaching him makes him a martyr. Long term, Dems are way better off to let it go and let him take his chances against their candidate in an election.
Agreed, particularly with the bolded paragraph.
While I enjoyed reading the article posted in the OP, and certainly believe that Trump’s predilection for running his mouth (fingers?) will provide acres of fodder for campaign season, impeachment would only make his embattled, “poor him” self more attractive to his base.
Best thing right now is to not reward his bad behavior with even more attention.
There are other more important things that the House should be focused on.
I suspect you are not alone in this. The GOP is playing for some short term gains, but your post proves the danger of this path for them in the long run.
Trump has destroyed the Republican party for a generation at least. They have lost the Millennials already as they play to the old, grey, Fox News consuming bigots, who are the past and not the future of the party.
The GOP gleefully sat back and watched it happen. They'll have no one to blame but themselves going forward.
Except that McConnell is playing the long game by packing the courts all over the country.
He and the rest of the GOP may see more short term losses next year, as they did in 2018, but make no mistake, he’s taking full advantage of the current situation.
Trump is the perfect guy to have in front of the curtain. While he sucks up all of the air in the room, McConnell and the rest just go about their business practically unnoticed.
Impeachment is a trap that would steal even more time away from much more important concerns.
I suspect you are not alone in this. The GOP is playing for some short term gains, but your post proves the danger of this path for them in the long run.
Trump has destroyed the Republican party for a generation at least. They have lost the Millennials already as they play to the old, grey, Fox News consuming bigots, who are the past and not the future of the party.
The GOP gleefully sat back and watched it happen. They'll have no one to blame but themselves going forward.
Yes, keep believing and stating over and over how much we are all a basket of deplorables and bigots. Let's see where that gets the Dims.
The Democratic lead Congress has an obligation within their oath to move forward with hearings and go where it leads so what is up with your idea that we should allow rule of law and oversight to be pissed on?
Oh please, The Democrats have beaten this thing to death. They're the ones that should dust up on the rule of law since it doesn't amount to a hill of beans to any of them.
As for Don McGahn, he's already given 29 hours of testimony. The White House has submitted millions of pages of documents. There is nothing they haven't seen or heard, yet the left in their never-ending crusade still thinks they can find something. Trump was cleared. Get over it.
The Democrats in Congress need to get off their dead lazy asses and do something worthwhile for the American people besides perpetuate something that's already gone down the drain.
Except that McConnell is playing the long game by packing the courts all over the country.
The Senate is confirming nominees given them by the President to fill available vacancies, not creating new positions. "Court packing" is creating new seats to fill them to override prior majorities, and neither Trump nor McConnell is doing anything of the sort. They are both fulfilling their constitutional duties for judical appointment and confirmation right to the letter.
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He and the rest of the GOP may see more short term losses next year, as they did in 2018, but make no mistake, he’s taking full advantage of the current situation.
Trump is the perfect guy to have in front of the curtain. While he sucks up all of the air in the room, McConnell and the rest just go about their business practically unnoticed.
Their "business" is exactly what the Constitution and the rules/procedures of the US Senate prescribe. We live in a representative constitutional republic, and both President and Senate Majority leader are performing their duties according to the Constitution.
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Impeachment is a trap that would steal even more time away from much more important concerns.
Impeachment is indeed a trap. Nobody wins when it happens, and yes, I said that all during the Clinton nonsense.
I am actually a registered Libertarian, I have never voted for a Dem. However, I will now. I don't care who wins as long as it is not a Republican. I can't believe the GOP let Trump and his base take over the entire party. Especially after years of hearing them talk crap about how much character and morals matters in a candidate and playing up the whole family values stuff. I am done with those effing hypocrites for good.
This,
don't think there are any self respecting republicans left.
And indeed republicans did let Trump take over their party.
Trump has already allowed McGahn to be interviewed by Mueller. That shoots a hole in attorney-client privilege. Trump is trying to cover his ass by denying McGahn his 1st amendment rights.
Mueller had prosecutorial powers.
Congress only has Political Smear.
See the difference
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