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Because historically a minimum wage worker absolutely could afford a 1 bedroom apartment. I am shocked that you believe they shouldn't have it like it's some kind of amazing luxury just to have a roof over your head. Are we all supposed to cram in with relatives and friends and strangers just so fatcats can put more dime in their pockets?
Minimum wage has not been rising as it should over the decades, anyway. This is also because of greed. But you know we bailed out banks and have corporate welfare, tax cuts, loopholes and tax havens for the rich to just protect their money, not have to pay their fair share of taxes and gain more in their sleep than an average working person can see in a lifetime.
And you want to deny these people a modest little 1 bedroom apartment which amounts to about 600 square stinkin' feet to live in? You don't think they deserve that if they're working full time?
And no job is unskilled. Every job takes some kind of skill. If you had absolutely no skills you would not be employable.
Maybe get down off that high horse so you can see more clearly.
I never could, and I was renting in the 80's when everything was awesome. I always had a roommate or a spouse and I was not a minimum wage worker. Of course I wasn't living in the middle of nowhere either, maybe that makes a difference. I'll never stand behind the idea that any and all minimum wage workers "deserve" or should expect to afford their own individual 1 bedroom apartment .
Seems like it would be much, much more than 76 billion dollars a year.
The estimate is way, way, way too low. This will likely be the most expensive tax credit program in the history of America.
Unmarried couples especially will take advantage of it with one paying and claiming 100% of their income was spent on housing while an unmarried housemate who files seperate pays for everything else.
75% or more of housing costs for those an excess 30% of gross income over the course of a year would be refunded via a tax credit. Even those up to $75,000 would be able to get a credit of 50% of any housing costs above 30% of their income.
This is a California giveaway, California will benefit more than states like North Dakota or Iowa where it's much more unusual for those to pay 30% of their income in rent.
Many unmarried people will pay 100% of their income in rent while they have a live in partner unmarried who pays for every thing else but doesn't claim to be a resident.
In many parts of middle-America people pay a very small percentage of their income for rent on average.
People of limited means, who own and occupy small, low-value homes, would be cheated by this measure. They not only had to sink their assets into the purchase of their properties, but also have to pay for property taxes, homeowner's insurance and all maintenance and special assessment costs. Renters have to pay for none of those things, but they would get huge subsidies.
Because historically a minimum wage worker absolutely could afford a 1 bedroom apartment. I am shocked that you believe they shouldn't have it like it's some kind of amazing luxury just to have a roof over your head. Are we all supposed to cram in with relatives and friends and strangers just so fatcats can put more dime in their pockets?
Minimum wage has not been rising as it should over the decades, anyway. This is also because of greed. But you know we bailed out banks and have corporate welfare, tax cuts, loopholes and tax havens for the rich to just protect their money, not have to pay their fair share of taxes and gain more in their sleep than an average working person can see in a lifetime.
And you want to deny these people a modest little 1 bedroom apartment which amounts to about 600 square stinkin' feet to live in? You don't think they deserve that if they're working full time?
And no job is unskilled. Every job takes some kind of skill. If you had absolutely no skills you would not be employable.
Maybe get down off that high horse so you can see more clearly.
No, they couldn’t. When I was the minimum wage earner decades upon decades ago if you earned minimum wage you either lived in a rooming house, rented a room, lived with roommates, or lived with a relative. When I first got married all my husband and I, who were both working and not living in a high cost area, could afford was a tiny studio in the iffy part of town. It sure as crap wasn’t 600 square feet, back then the average house size (not apartment) was less than 1000 square feet, and that was what whole families lived in, not a couple like us earning minimum wage. People used to be able to live on lower wages in part because they used to have far lower expectations.
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No, they couldn’t. When I was the minimum wage earner decades upon decades ago if you earned minimum wage you either lived in a rooming house, rented a room, lived with roommates, or lived with a relative.
Yes, it's just more Democrat lies.
Best we could ever do back in the 70's was have 2 other room mates or maybe rent a room. No way could I ever afford a small Studio apartment plus expenses even in low COL Texas on MW even back then. Twenty plus years later in the late 90's my kids could not either.
MW is just a starter base wage and never meant to support anyone. I remember working all summer just to pay my car Insurance when I started driving.
Because historically a minimum wage worker absolutely could afford a 1 bedroom apartment. I am shocked that you believe they shouldn't have it like it's some kind of amazing luxury just to have a roof over your head. Are we all supposed to cram in with relatives and friends and strangers just so fatcats can put more dime in their pockets?
Minimum wage has not been rising as it should over the decades, anyway. This is also because of greed. But you know we bailed out banks and have corporate welfare, tax cuts, loopholes and tax havens for the rich to just protect their money, not have to pay their fair share of taxes and gain more in their sleep than an average working person can see in a lifetime.
And you want to deny these people a modest little 1 bedroom apartment which amounts to about 600 square stinkin' feet to live in? You don't think they deserve that if they're working full time?
And no job is unskilled. Every job takes some kind of skill. If you had absolutely no skills you would not be employable.
Maybe get down off that high horse so you can see more clearly.
What do you mean that I "want to deny people a modest 1 bedroom apartment?" And I need to "get off my high horse"?
1) When I graduated from college 35 years ago, I could NOT afford a 1-bedroom apartment on the entry-level salary in my field. My friends were all in the same boat. We either doubled up to share a rental, or lived in a single room studio in a cheap building in a marginal section of town. If it was good enough for a college graduate, it's good enough for a minimum wage worker with no skills or education.
2) Where is all this money going to come from? I read the bill Harris is proposing, and it outlined clearly how people up to $100,000 (!!) will get rent subsidies, but not a word about how to pay for it.
3) You sound like the typical liberal that drives me crazy: just focused on give, give, give, and anytime someone responsible (I have a budget and weigh carefully anything I spend) brings up how its unaffordable and people are not ENTITLED to other people's money, you start in with the insults.
4) Yes, some jobs ARE unskilled. Ringing up a few buttons, collecting money, and giving change at McDonald's is an unskilled job - which I classify as a job for which I had the skills as a 7th grader. People who hold jobs that require no more than an elementary school education can get a roommate.
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I love the everyone is a victim mentality that Ms Harris promotes. I do believe anyone who is working full time deserves to find a safe, clean place to live if that means a studio with cinder block walls so be it. As so many stated evoked "college grad" that only means that they have the potential to be higher earners. So many have obtained degrees that will require 20 years till the position is created or the one person passes away, you really need to come out with marketable skills that have real jobs available.
McD's is an unskilled job but for those with a desire there is a path to more substantial career if they want, how many people should consider relocating if no jobs exist where their at. Of course we have younger generations now that believe they should be buying a home 1 year out of school and "they deserve" whatever type of life, let them earn it the way the rest of us did not give them a handout...
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