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Old 05-16-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MacInTx View Post
I care about the declining birth rate. I care about the impact of abortion on the US population.


Approximately 3,864,000 live births in 2017.([SIZE=4]https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/hea...cid=spartanntp).[/SIZE]




Approximately 879,000 abortions in 2017. (https://www.abort73.com/abortion_fac...on_statistics/ )



Thus, we aborted approximately 18.5% of the pregnancies in 2017


How can anyone think this is a good thing for the human race?
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Because the earth is overpopulated by billions as it is. We don't need more people to stress the limits of what the earth can support.

 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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We support the lives of the innocent, defenseless unborn children that leftists are content with snuffing out under a sick and twisted "choice" rationale.
So not caring for the defenseless children who are already here is okay? Why do people just want to bring babies into the world and then not take care of them?
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Except states (specifically Ohio) have bills in place to BAN any birth control method that prevents an egg from implanting calling them nontherapeutic abortions. “Nontherapeutic abortion” includes drugs or devices used to prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum. So there go IUDs and birth control pills as options.

And did you know Ohio also removed tubal ligation from its list of services provided in their family planning clinics? There goes tubal ligation (although men are still able to get vasectomies).

Ohio removes the most effective forms of birth control and then bans abortions. And people wonder why women are upset. They’re being put in no win positions unless they define “winning” as having as many kids as the state forces you to have.
This is the problem, they don't want to do anything meaningful to prevent unintended births they just want to address the symptom not the problem. Ohio also just defunded Planned Parenthood clinics that don't even perform abortion, how does taking away education and contraception make any sense. They are just a bunch of religious ideologues that have no interest in real solutions.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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This is the problem, they don't want to do anything meaningful to prevent unintended births they just want to address the symptom not the problem. Ohio also just defunded Planned Parenthood clinics that don't even perform abortion, how does taking away education and contraception make any sense. They are just a bunch of religious ideologues that have no interest in real solutions.
Yep. Cancel Sex Ed classes in schools, defund Planned Parenthood, ban the most effective forms of birth control, ban abortion and force women to carry babies to term. But, then refuse to support those kids once they’re born. Well done Alabama, Georgia, Ohio etc. No hypocrisy at all in your laws.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"


Call "them" whatever you like...they're human.
Until they are born.

Then it's okay if they starve in the streets, sleep outside on rocks or spend their lives in foster care.

Much better that they know that they are suffering right?
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Conservative Values:


Woman gets abortion after a rape = 40 years in jail
Man who did the rape = 5 years in jail

Welcome to the Christian dictatorship.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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If a woman is forced to carry her rapist's baby, is she going to be forced to pay the ~$10,000 worth of pre-natal care, too? And if giving birth to a baby is going to kill the mother, but she can't do anything about it, how is that pro-life?
This question right here sounds to me like grounds for a class-action lawsuit.

If women are effectively forced to carry every pregnancy to term, even those where the infants have little chance of quality of life and require all sorts of medical intervention, etc., then it seems to me that the people who passed and signed this into law should have fiduciary responsibility for all of the associated expenses up to and including lifelong nursing care, etc.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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You'd think the GOP wouldn't want more deadbeats leeching off the system with a bunch of kids.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Oh look, more hyperbolic nonsense labeling those who believe women should be able to make their own personal medical decisions without government interference as being 'Pro' anything but CHOICE.
"pro-choice" is abortion. Women do not need legislation to give them the option not to abort, the legislation is all about the choice to abort the fetus.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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This question right here sounds to me like grounds for a class-action lawsuit.

If women are effectively forced to carry every pregnancy to term, even those where the infants have little chance of quality of life and require all sorts of medical intervention, etc., then it seems to me that the people who passed and signed this into law should have fiduciary responsibility for all of the associated expenses up to and including lifelong nursing care, etc.

This!^^^^
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