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And the reward? Well, 1300 or so Tory politicians will now have way more time to tend to their gardens and other hobbies. Labour expected a win, and in comparison, I guess it could be argued they got one - they only lost 80-some seats. The UKIP got themselves a kick in the fork as well, and that couldn't have happened to a bunch of nicer people.
The Liberal Democrats, on the other hand, picked up 700+ seats. Incidentally, they're pro-EU.
May of course describes the outcome as a massive victory for Brexit, although she doesn't exactly outline why.
My British Brexiteer friend just sent me an email today about it.
Politics red hot. Conservatives lost 1340 councillors – they prewarned of “possibly 800”, expecting less to claim success! (Labour lost a few too – expected to pick up a few hundred.) A previous PM today said she must go (that’s heavyweight!), with many other big figures also. And articles describing her as a disaster in very strong terms – really unusual here in our political debate. Usually far less outspoken than yours. Not any more! Nigel warning her (Telegraph headline for tomorrow, online now) not to form a coalition with Labour “against the people”.
The three parties on the left are pro-Brexit. Two of the columns on the right represent pro-EU parties, the 3rd represents local groupings with no party affiliation that's represented in Parliament. Seems like that the "punishment" idea would call for the voters to decide to express their intense support for Brexit by walking right by the other two pro-Brexit options and instead vote for pro-EU - or at best local - candidates?
The three parties on the left are pro-Brexit. Two of the columns on the right represent pro-EU parties, the 3rd represents local groupings with no party affiliation that's represented in Parliament. Seems like that the "punishment" idea would call for the voters to decide to express their intense support for Brexit by walking right by the other two pro-Brexit options and instead vote for pro-EU - or at best local - candidates?
It's called a protest vote.Anyone but the two main parties.
Plus Britain's newest and fastest-growing party - Nigel Farage's Brexit Party - didn't field any candidates ( the party is less than a month old ).
You'll be whistling a different tune after the European elections later this month when voters are predicted to deliver a massive pro-Brexit vote.
The Tory and Labour parties are both suffering for their refusal to implement the result of the EU referendum.
Big change is coming.
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And the reward? Well, 1300 or so Tory politicians will now have way more time to tend to their gardens and other hobbies. Labour expected a win, and in comparison, I guess it could be argued they got one - they only lost 80-some seats. The UKIP got themselves a kick in the fork as well, and that couldn't have happened to a bunch of nicer people.
The Liberal Democrats, on the other hand, picked up 700+ seats. Incidentally, they're pro-EU.
May of course describes the outcome as a massive victory for Brexit, although she doesn't exactly outline why.
It'll make no difference on a national level, of course. But - interesting, none the less...
The Tories didn't do well because they didn't deliver Brexit, not because they were Pro-Brexit, indeed Labour didn't do well either, neither the Brexiteers or the Remaineers were happy.
It's fairly usual that the party in power doesn't do well in Local Elections often due to a protest vote about something, and this was the Tories worst local elections since 1995.
Labour should have capitaised and gained seats but didn't, they also most seats and they are in opposition, indeed it was smaller parties and independents who did well, including Pro-Brexit independents.
Saying that Local Council Elections often siffer from a low turnout and are often used as a protest vote, and the same will be true in relation to the European Elections, however General Elections are usually very different.
In terms of the latest voting it reinforces the need for Parliament and especialy the Tories and Labour to solve the curent impasse somnething which they are still currently negotiating.
The local electins have also put further pressure on Theresa May who is trying to buy time, however the most likely outcome is that she is replaced by a Brexiteer such as Bris Johnson within coming months.
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The three parties on the left are pro-Brexit. Two of the columns on the right represent pro-EU parties, the 3rd represents local groupings with no party affiliation that's represented in Parliament. Seems like that the "punishment" idea would call for the voters to decide to express their intense support for Brexit by walking right by the other two pro-Brexit options and instead vote for pro-EU - or at best local - candidates?
You are aware there are 20,687 council seats altogether in the country.
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