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Old 05-06-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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What's the relevance? Are you correlating military strength with land area?
That’s more territory that a military has to conquer and hold. Mountainous territory at that....the most daunting of all landscapes.

Come on...I know you’re smarter than this.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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That’s more territory that a military has to conquer and hold. Mountainous territory at that....the most daunting of all landscapes.

Come on...I know you’re smarter than this.

And you're smart enough to know you don't have to conquer and hold all of the territory. Good grief, how do you think Japan subdued China and the Pacific region in WWII? Even if you buy into the false premise that you have to "occupy" in the first place, it only needs to be strategic locations.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:09 PM
 
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What's the relevance? Are you correlating military strength with land area?
Yea, land area and terrain type is pretty damn important. I can tell you have zero experience and knowledge in this.

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As soon as I saw Bolton added to this Administration I said it's only a matter of time before we are in another War.
The clock has started ticking.
Lol, yea, that guy is like the king of neocons.

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And you're smart enough to know you don't have to conquer and hold all of the territory. Good grief, how do you think Japan subdued China and the Pacific region in WWII? Even if you buy into the false premise that you have to "occupy" in the first place, it only needs to be strategic locations.
Japan did not subdue all of China or even close to it, I have no idea where you get this from. Japan advanced some, stalemated, then China (this is where the communists got their foothold) drive the Japanese back. At no point ever did Japan subdue China nor remotely close to it.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:22 PM
 
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And you're smart enough to know you don't have to conquer and hold all of the territory. Good grief, how do you think Japan subdued China and the Pacific region in WWII? Even if you buy into the false premise that you have to "occupy" in the first place, it only needs to be strategic locations.
You just don’t get it, do you?

If we attack Iran, there’s no just sitting around in “strategic locations.” We will have to take Tehran, the center of power. Then other important cities in the other regions have to be taken. Cities like Isfahan and Shiraz. You think this is some kinda game where Americans wave the flag and the Iranians just lie down and spread their cheeks? They are gonna fight to the last man and take thousands of American troops with them.

Jihadists from all over the world will POUR across the border from every direction to kill Americans. It’s a border that we can’t secure no matter what we do. They will attack American targets relentlessly.

Iran will have to be occupied after invading it. If you think otherwise, you’re just clueless about war.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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You just don’t get it, do you?

If we attack Iran, there’s no just sitting around in “strategic locations.” We will have to take Tehran, the center of power. Then other important cities in the other regions have to be taken. Cities like Isfahan and Shiraz. You think this is some kinda game where Americans wave the flag and the Iranians just lie down and spread their cheeks? They are gonna fight to the last man and take thousands of American troops with them.

Jihadists from all over the world will POUR across the border from every direction to kill Americans. It’s a border that we can’t secure no matter what we do. They will attack American targets relentlessly.

Iran will have to be occupied after invading it. If you think otherwise, you’re just clueless about war.

You're clueless. We do NOT have to occupy. We do not have to take cities. Occupation is precisely what creates the scenario you describe. What border are you talking about securing?
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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You're clueless. We do NOT have to occupy. We do not have to take cities. Occupation is precisely what creates the scenario you describe. What border are you talking about securing?
What, do some airstrikes? If that was so effective, then that is all we would ever do...
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:01 PM
 
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What, do some airstrikes? If that was so effective, then that is all we would ever do...

Effective in doing what? You're flapping your trap and haven't even mentioned what mission you have in mind? Are you thinking total regime change and nation rebuilding? We are sending a carrier group to deter, and respond to if necessary, Iranian military action in the region. That can be accomplished with air strikes. We can certainly neutralize Iranian military threat to it's neighbors without occupation.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:41 PM
 
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Effective in doing what? You're flapping your trap and haven't even mentioned what mission you have in mind? Are you thinking total regime change and nation rebuilding? We are sending a carrier group to deter, and respond to if necessary, Iranian military action in the region. That can be accomplished with air strikes. We can certainly neutralize Iranian military threat to it's neighbors without occupation.
Goodness, you cannot even follow your own line of thought, lol.
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:30 AM
 
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Wag The Dog II. This is all about distracting from the upcoming testimony of Muller, McGahn, etc. And if things turn much worse for Trump, he'll start a war with Iran to try to save himself.
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Old 05-07-2019, 02:15 AM
 
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Aircraft carrier sent to Middle East after indications Iran planned attack on US forces

Wag the dog ...
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