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Old 05-20-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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lol - Metaphor much? I was taught to avoid them like the plague.....
Good job, then. That's a simile.
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:21 PM
 
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Good job, then. That's a simile.
lol - that punch line (avoid them like the plague) is older than either one of us, and is still good.
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:20 PM
 
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lol - that punch line (avoid them like the plague) is older than either one of us, and is still good.
Yeah, I know. It's still wrong though.
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Old 05-21-2019, 04:53 AM
 
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It's taking time to get to that point. They first want to see if they can get compliance with the subpoenas. They'll go from there according to Congressman Mark Pocan of Wisconsin. Heard him today talking about it.
US District Court Judge Amit Mehta's ruling yesterday could be an indication things might proceed rather more quickly than earlier supposed:

Judge upholds Dem subpoena for Trump financial records

The judge, Amit Mehta, ruled that Congress can investigate the president without beginning formal impeachment proceedings.

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U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta’s ruling delivers a striking blow to the president’s efforts to resist Democratic investigations, and is certain to give Democrats further legal basis to investigate Trump, his finances, and his presidential campaign.

... In a 41-page opinion issued Monday, Mehta systematically dismantled the Trump legal team’s arguments against the validity of the subpoena — and he pushed back on claims from congressional Republicans that the House Judiciary Committee must formally launch an impeachment inquiry before issuing such subpoenas.

“It is simply not fathomable that a Constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a president for reasons including criminal behavior would deny Congress the power to investigate him for unlawful conduct — past or present — even without formally opening an impeachment inquiry," Mehta wrote.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ecords-1335370
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Congress can investigate the President. They just need a specific reason, not a fishing expedition.

Watch and learn.
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:14 AM
 
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Congress can investigate the President. They just need a specific reason, not a fishing expedition.

Watch and learn.
Some folks have been "watching & learning" ever since Mr Trump's attorney William Consovoy & House General Counsel Douglas presented arguments last week.

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Mehta emphasized that even though the committee never adopted a formal resolution outlining the purpose of its investigation, many other factors would deem the probe legitimate. Mehta pointed to Cummings’ reliance on federal ethics law in letters outlining the purpose of his investigation, and noted that legislation could conceivably be connected to the results of that probe. The judge also noted that Congress has unique constitutional power to oversee potential “emoluments,†or improper foreign payments, steered toward the president.

“Surely, incident to Congress’s authority to consent to the president’s receipt of emoluments is the power to investigate the president’s compliance with the Clause,†Mehta argued.

Congress is also allowed to investigate presidential conflicts of interest and a president's conduct “before and during his term,†Mehta ruled, pushing back on an argument from Republicans that Congress shouldn’t be investigating Trump’s conduct that pre-dates his political career.
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:17 AM
 
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Some folks have been "watching & learning" ever since Mr Trump's attorney William Consovoy & House General Counsel Douglas presented arguments last week.

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Mehta won't have the final say. Let's all keep watchin' and learnin'.
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:49 AM
 
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Mehta won't have the final say. Let's all keep watchin' and learnin'.
Will do.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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Demonrats in Congress are the ones that want AG Barr violates the Law. Is AG Barr disrespecting the Fathers of the Country for refusing to violate the Law ????? I consider that most of you "Democrats" are not true Americans.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'm not "playing" anything. Half of congress are attorneys. Schumer and Nadler for starters.
Chuck Schumer went straight from college into politics as an elected representative. Show me where he ever joined a law firm or worked as an attorney. The man has never worked an honest job in his life, all he knows is government, nothing else.
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