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View Poll Results: Do you think the electoral college should be abolished?
Yes 22 23.16%
No 70 73.68%
Other (please specify) 3 3.16%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-04-2019, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Your stuck in the servant vs the served attitude. You'd make a fine King of England. We fought a revolution over this thinking. maybe you should go visit the liberty bell and re-learn American history.

Think man... think! You're promoting division not balance.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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No. Democrats only want to get rid of the electoral college because Hillary lost the race. Just because you didn't win the game doesn't mean you get to change the rules.
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Default Do you think the electoral college should be abolished?

Well do you?
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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If the Electoral College is abandoned for the principles of "people voting and not states" and "one person, one vote" then the primaries must be changed as well.


Primaries have:

-Super delegates

-States apportioned by population and partisan numbers

-States getting preferential placement in the voting queue

-States losing delegates if they adjust their primary date

-Caucuses that shun away workers that can't take several hours off of work to vote in a long caucus format

-Etc...

All of those are anti-democratic and follow along with the same reasons against the electoral college.


This is why I think a lot of the Electoral College complaints are merely political subterfuge to attack a system they think favors the opposition. Otherwise, why not change your primary on the principles that you supposedly advocate and you could change it today without a constitutional amendment if you sincerely believe on principle what you attack the electoral college for?
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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This is one that I can see both sides of the argument. I've lived in a small state for all of my adult life.

Yes, it's unfair that small states can get swamped by large states. It's equally unfair that a minority of voters can swamp the majority.

My only real conclusion is that if we are to maintain the idea that states are semi-independent members of a federal union, then we have to look harder at gerrymandering and voter repression within the states. I think this can be argued on the grounds that US citizens should have equal rights to vote wherever in the US they choose to live.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:26 PM
 
Location: London
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No.

But abolish the "first to 270" rule and count all states votes.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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Why not just get rid of elections and have a government committee appoint our leaders.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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No.

But abolish the "first to 270" rule and count all states votes.
What on earth difference would that make? The person with at least 270 electoral votes wins. Always.

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Old 06-23-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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I would rather we go to a proportional vote system, where each candidate gets delegates based on the percentage of votes. "Winner take all" is the problem, not the electoral college. If a candidate gets 40% of a state's vote, they should get 40% of that state's electoral votes.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I would rather we go to a proportional vote system, where each candidate gets delegates based on the percentage of votes. "Winner take all" is the problem, not the electoral college. If a candidate gets 40% of a state's vote, they should get 40% of that state's electoral votes.
I like that, but it doesn't get rid of the problem that some states do a better job with maintaining fairer elections systems than others do.
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