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Old 06-26-2019, 10:23 AM
 
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In the words of Bob Mueller





We need a little bit more clarity on that. This is a risk for the Democrats but I dont think the vast majority of the American public even read the 400 plus page of the Mueller report, now they will here it in Mueller's own words.
this is why Bob Mueller is a piece of slime


saying "Even though we found no proof there was a crime, there also wasn't any proof there wasn't a crime" is not the standard we have in America. That's like saying even though there isn't any proof you murdered or raped anyone, there also isn't any evidence that shows you didn't do those things


Mueller revealed himself for what he and his counsel really were during that little speech


now thanks to his testimony, Republicans can grill him like there is no tomorrow
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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this is why Bob Mueller is a piece of slime


saying "Even though we found no proof there was a crime, there also wasn't any proof there wasn't a crime" is not the standard we have in America. That's like saying even though there isn't any proof you murdered or raped anyone, there also isn't any evidence that shows you didn't do those things


Mueller revealed himself for what he and his counsel really were during that little speech


now thanks to his testimony, Republicans can grill him like there is no tomorrow
In other words he punted....I kind of agree on that. But his reasoning is sound

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And second, the opinion says that the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting President of wrongdoing.

And beyond Department policy, we were guided by principles of fairness. It would be unfair to potentially accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no court resolution of an actual charge.

So that was the Justice Department policy and those were the principles under which we operated. From them we concluded that we would not reach a determination – one way or the other – about whether the President committed a crime. That is the office’s final position and we will not comment on any other conclusions or hypotheticals about the President.
The Criminal Justice System is headed by the President....so it's like trying to arrest an arsonist when in fact the Chief of Police is the arsonist. This was the issue with Nixon and it's an issue now. This is still a big mess.
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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In other words he punted....I kind of agree on that. But his reasoning is sound



The Criminal Justice System is headed by the President....so it's like trying to arrest an arsonist when in fact the Chief of Police is the arsonist. This was the issue with Nixon and it's an issue now. This is still a big mess.
there was a clear crime committed in Nixon's case. The break in of the Watergate hotel


there is no crime when it comes to Trump's case
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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there was a clear crime committed in Nixon's case. The break in of the Watergate hotel


there is no crime when it comes to Trump's case
The hacking of US Servers is a crime....period. In Nixon's case they had a smoking gun. In this case they just had alot of smoke and major questions marks about where it came from,

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Before I step away, I want to thank the attorneys, the FBI agents, the analysts, and the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. These individuals, who spent nearly two years with the Special Counsel’s Office, were of the highest integrity.

I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments—that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election.

That allegation deserves the attention of every American.
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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In the words of Bob Mueller





We need a little bit more clarity on that. This is a risk for the Democrats but I dont think the vast majority of the American public even read the 400 plus page of the Mueller report, now they will here it in Mueller's own words.


Most people that follow the unhinged president and his criminal enterprise know by now that there DOESN'T needs to be an underlying crime for an obstruction charge or conviction.

I agree there may be a risk to Democrats but most people haven't read the report. It doesn't seem like the president and his lap GOP men have even read it. Mueller stated in the report that he wasn't looking for collusion and that there are 10 instances/episodes of obstruction. Our president is a liar. He wants us to believe federal law enforcement when it comes to him starting/provoking a war with Iran but the American public shouldn't believe federal law enforcement including his self appointed FBI director when it comes to his crimes. He is a 5-time draft dodging con man. Mueller is a patriot and hero. Mueller and FBI have given decades of service to our country to turn around and be attacked by a man that rips off other Americans and charities for his own financial gain.
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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The hacking of US Servers is a crime....period. In Nixon's case they had a smoking gun. In this case they just had alot of smoke and major questions marks about where it came from,
there have always been attempts to interfere in our elections. That's not new



and when it comes to the DNC servers, the Dems won't even allow them to be turned over for investigation
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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there have always been attempts to interfere in our elections. That's not new



and when it comes to the DNC servers, the Dems won't even allow them to be turned over for investigation
True and not true.....nothing on this scale. This was a Russia Military Operation.
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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True and not true.....nothing on this scale. This was a Russia Military Operation.
yeah nothing like using Facebook ads which then the Democrats can use as an excuse for losing
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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yeah nothing like using Facebook ads which then the Democrats can use as an excuse for losing
OR.....in the words of Robert Mueller

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Let me begin where the appointment order begins: and that is interference in the 2016 presidential election.

As alleged by the grand jury in an indictment, Russian intelligence officers who were part of the Russian military launched a concerted attack on our political system.

The indictment alleges that they used sophisticated cyber techniques to hack into computers and networks used by the Clinton campaign. They stole private information, and then released that information through fake online identities and through the organization WikiLeaks. The releases were designed and timed to interfere with our election and to damage a presidential candidate.
I guess that's not really important.
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Old 06-26-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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OR.....in the words of Robert Mueller



I guess that's not really important.
yes it shows how bad the cyber security of the DNC was


that's on the DNC. Not Trump and Republicans

not to mention the media did everything they could to bury any of that stuff. Hell I was told by liberals here that none of the leaked stuff was a "big deal" and it was just normal political stuff
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