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Old 05-29-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Exactly. Barr is just another Trump sycophant. Mueller said he is unable to make a determination regarding Trump's innocence OR guilt.

Mueller, in First Comments on Russia Inquiry, Declines to Clear Trump https://nyti.ms/2KapwS0
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Exactly. Remember his podium? No collusion. Well from the horses mouth the President was NOT cleared and there wasn’t an option to charge him in the investigation.

So we can’t find you not guilty of the crime and we couldn’t charge you even if so.

Not good for Trump
So in the US, you have to prove you didn’t commit a crime you haven’t been charged of? When did that happen?
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Russians Mueller indicted officially have more rights than Trump.

At least they’re assumed innocent until guilty in a court. Trump is guilty until he somehow proves himself innocent of every accusation in your dossier you refuse to answer questions about.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Can't quite believe what I'm watching on Fox news here.
They're all saying this is bad news for the President.
(apart from Newt Gingrich who fell over his own feet trying to convince himself of Trumps innocence).

Is the tide finally turning on Trump?
When Fox turns on him you know it's bad.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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So apparently he thinks the President might have committed a crime, they just can't find it.

After such an extensive investigation, do members of Congress feel they can find it? That's apparently what they are expecting to do. Boy I wonder how long they'll spend on it. Until just before the 2020 election? That should be quite interesting.
He can’t find it? He listed 10 episodes, he simply stated today that he cannot make a decision either way as he’s bound by the OLC opinion AND he cannot make a determination on someone who may not be able to defend themselves in court.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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Wrong. He was not charged because he found no evidence he committed any crime. That’s the standard we operate in Americ a
Can you point to the portion of the report that states that?

Can you provide a transcript of Mueller's statement this morning and point to the part where he states that?
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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I think he just wanted to get out in front of everything to avoid being used as a political pawn. "All I'm going to say is in the report". Shaky voice....didn't expect that.

The "the investigation was very important and needed to respond to very serious allegations" seems to be a comment to the whacky rights conspiracy theories.
His body language said a lot and we are not talking much about that.

Then again, I don't suppose many people notice such things. When he walked away he was hunched over.....

My take? Well, that's a long story. I truly think people like Mueller help make this country great...and that comes from a 60's hippie who wouldn't have served unless really forced.....

Just that I realize it takes all types...and he is honorable although a member of the Establishment.

The old saying "a penny for your thoughts".....wow, would I like to hear those of Muelller. I suspect part of him is thinking "my entire life was spent doing the Right Thing or what I perceived as such and yet here I am in the employ of Donald Trump reading what he told me to".
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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"If we had confidence that the President did not commit a crime we would have said so."

Special Counsel Mueller

It's time for Congress to do their job and not worry about political implications and impeach Donald Trump!
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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The Russians Mueller indicted officially have more rights than Trump.

At least they’re assumed innocent until guilty in a court. Trump is guilty until he somehow proves himself innocent of every accusation in your dossier you refuse to answer questions about.
If you feel this way can you convince the senate GOP to Impeach (you know, actually say they would vote to do so if the evidence points) and then we can all actually listen to the evidence?
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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His body language said a lot and we are not talking much about that.

Then again, I don't suppose many people notice such things. When he walked away he was hunched over.....

My take? Well, that's a long story. I truly think people like Mueller help make this country great...and that comes from a 60's hippie who wouldn't have served unless really forced.....

Just that I realize it takes all types...and he is honorable although a member of the Establishment.

The old saying "a penny for your thoughts".....wow, would I like to hear those of Muelller. I suspect part of him is thinking "my entire life was spent doing the Right Thing or what I perceived as such and yet here I am in the employ of Donald Trump reading what he told me to".
I agree with much of that, except there's no way Trump would've ever allowed to read the statement he just made. That was really bad for Trump. Mueller was restrained by doing the right thing based on current laws, policies and his own discipline to adhere to them. I respect him for that.
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