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Old 06-01-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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Nah, the Germans 80 years ago had no more knowledge of European beliefs. Just like today many right-wing people, rockers etc. display supposedly Nordic symbols, but they know little about the content. The glorification of Nordic people also came from Californian racists, by the way. It was not a German idea.
Germans back then were Christians.

Not to mention Celtic religions, which were common before the Roman times in Europe. Few people know anything about them.

The Nazis were culturally confused, their swastika came from India, which some Nazis liked for weird esoteric reasons.
Who are the California racists? The Nazi symbol of terror is of their own imagination. It is the the reverse of Indian symbol for peace and prosperity.

 
Old 06-01-2019, 05:00 PM
 
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Nah, the Germans 80 years ago had no more knowledge of European beliefs. Just like today many right-wing people, rockers etc. display supposedly Nordic symbols, but they know little about the content. The glorification of Nordic people also came from Californian racists, by the way. It was not a German idea.
Germans back then were Christians.

Not to mention Celtic religions, which were common before the Roman times in Europe. Few people know anything about them.

The Nazis were culturally confused, their swastika came from India, which some Nazis liked for weird esoteric reasons.
They used the swastika because it was associated with Ancient Aryan people which they believed they were the pure blooded descendants of. I don't think you realize how deep and how intensely the Nazi leadership took Germanic Mythicism.

There is a very interesting documentary about the occult history of the Third Reich that was done in the 1990's titled Nazis: The Occult Conspiracy

Its available to watch on youtube, link below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEwyT9OGtBY
 
Old 06-01-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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Nope. If the Germans hadn't tried to exterminate the Jews, the UN wouldn't have created Israel. Today's Islamists are every bit as vile as the Nazis were. And much like in the 30s...today's liberals are embracing Islamists as they did National Socialists. The promise of the genocide of the people of Israel from Iran's LEADERSHIP is every bit as vile as what Hitler promoted.

Today's Islamist lack the courage of the Nazis though. Rather than declaring and waging a war against them, they launch anonymous rockets and hide behind women and children. Following the teachings of Moho-a warlord, rapist, murderer and pedophile.

...toy, go look up the "Balfour Declaration" then get back to all of us with your goofy history story...
 
Old 06-02-2019, 12:24 AM
 
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Why would any of that remind you of me? And I'm not sure what the car loan has to do with WWII, the tax cut, and all the rest. Something to do with Jews?
Doesnt make sense right? Same way I think there is too much imagination about anti semitism.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 12:37 AM
 
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Nah, the Germans 80 years ago had no more knowledge of European beliefs. Just like today many right-wing people, rockers etc. display supposedly Nordic symbols, but they know little about the content. The glorification of Nordic people also came from Californian racists, by the way. It was not a German idea.
Germans back then were Christians.

Not to mention Celtic religions, which were common before the Roman times in Europe. Few people know anything about them.

The Nazis were culturally confused, their swastika came from India, which some Nazis liked for weird esoteric reasons.
The Nazis were confused about their identity and history( they had none) and wanted to steal something from a superior culture and show it off as their own. Thats why they put lots of efforts in learning Sanskrit and "aryanizing" themselves. A lot of things happened after Max Mueller started reading ancient Indian literature, vedas. And from 1850-1950 there are disproportionate number of scientists originating from germany especially in physics.

And the other "historians" used it to their advantage to further their "Aryan invasion theory " and Sanskirt was an "Indo-European" language etc, propaganda.

And Hitler could be both. A Christian or a Jew. But definitely one of them for sure.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 04:20 AM
 
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Why would any of that remind you of me? And I'm not sure what the car loan has to do with WWII, the tax cut, and all the rest. Something to do with Jews?
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Doesnt make sense right? Same way I think there is too much imagination about anti semitism.
Now let me get this straight. You told me you went to get a car loan, and that it reminded you of Germany in the 20s, WWII, the Federal Reserve, the tax cut, and the Jewish person you know on C-D. Add in the fact that you have previously said Jews control the money industry - a sentiment I told you was antisemitic.

And here I was giving you the benefit of the doubt as being a nice person but naive.

P.S. I heard on the local news that an expensive camera was missing from Target, and my mind went to fried chicken and collard greens, the winners in Olympic races, the Civil War, and the black person on CD who brings up reparations.

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Old 06-02-2019, 07:13 AM
 
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...really?...ever here of the 'Balfour Declaration", signed in 1917...
The Balfour Declaration isn't even close to the reason for the nation of Israel. Where was Israel between 1917 and 1948.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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Did you read the article? I'm not talking about history, which I well know. I'm talking about NOW. Things have changed, and European Jews are reporting that more antisemitic threats and violence are coming from the Muslim extremists entering their country than from either left-wingers or right-wingers.
I read the article linked in OP.

Personally, the aspect that is most problematic for me is its focus on political correctness or rather, anti-political-correctness.

Opinion Jordan Peterson's Ugly, Race-baiting War on Political Correctness

Nothing is more incompatible with Jewish thought and history than Peterson's deliberate insensitivity to the effects of hate speech. The political correctness he and other conservatives malign has, rightly, raised the social and political cost of prejudice - and not yet far enough

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Jews have always understood that language has power.

The Torah begins with God’s creation of the world through speech. The particular words of prayers carry spiritual and halakhic weight.

Jewish history also teaches the terrible impact of hate speech.

Blood and host desecration libels led to untold numbers of Jewish deaths in the Middle Ages. The hatred that the masses of Europe felt for Jews after centuries of anti-Jewish preaching and texts like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion resulted in a widespread susceptibility to Nazism. Trump’s promotion of hate speech and opposition to "political correctness" has ushered in an era of increased hate crimes, some of which have been deadly. ...
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pre...ness-1.6983884
 
Old 06-02-2019, 07:43 AM
 
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I read the article linked in OP.

Personally, the aspect that is most problematic for me is its focus on political correctness or rather, anti-political-correctness.

Opinion Jordan Peterson's Ugly, Race-baiting War on Political Correctness

Nothing is more incompatible with Jewish thought and history than Peterson's deliberate insensitivity to the effects of hate speech. The political correctness he and other conservatives malign has, rightly, raised the social and political cost of prejudice - and not yet far enough



https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pre...ness-1.6983884
Haaretz is an extremely liberal publication, so they would naturally argue against the linked article in the OP. Thr Haaretz writers are saying that we should stick with what is PC rather than state the truth. The author of the original linked article says that in the effort to be PC (which to liberals these days is not to blame Muslim extremist attitudes for anything), we are hiding from the truth.

We agree to disagree.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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That's where a reconciliation could come from, both sides realizing they are part of a single family, separated only by religion.
How did or does that reconciliation work in Lebanon?
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