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Old 06-05-2019, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Abortion in general is not a medical treatment.
Is that what most doctors believe?

 
Old 06-05-2019, 01:53 PM
 
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If abortion isn't medical treatment, what is it? A cure?
 
Old 06-05-2019, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Fight for myself? There are 3 or 4 of you that ganged up on me and I was getting asked questions from all of you at the same time without giving me time to answer one of before asking another. This is my final opinion... Abortion is wrong and it is murder and should be done only in a medical emergency, rape or incest. No other excuses and should not be used as birth control. You might as well stop here because you will not change my mind.
Then why are you wasting time here? Since you quite strongly believe most abortion is nothing but murder, why aren't you at an abortion clinic standing in the doorway to block pregnant women from entering?
 
Old 06-05-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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If abortion isn't medical treatment, what is it? A cure?
Maybe a medical procedure. What would one be treated for with an abortion.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 02:17 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Then why are you wasting time here? Since you quite strongly believe most abortion is nothing but murder, why aren't you at an abortion clinic standing in the doorway to block pregnant women from entering?
That would be a waste of time.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 02:47 PM
 
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Would I personally have a second trimester abortion? Only if my life was in danger or if it was likely that the fetus would die before term or the baby would die at/shortly after delivery.

Do I want to stop other women from consulting with their doctors and making their own medical decisions? Of course not. It's not up to ME to decide what some other person should do; that's a decision that is between a woman and her doctor. Period.
This is a classic stance taken in American culture. But let's follow this logic out.

Should we take the life of a born hour old child if it's "likely" that is will die for whatever reason?

In respecting the right of a woman to end the life of her unborn child, would you also respect the right of a woman to have their 6 month old's life taken? "I think it's wrong for me to kill my daughter, but if my neighbor chooses to killer het's, it's not my place to judge".

It's convenient to hide under the guise of "medical decision" to mask the horror of taking a child's life. It isn't like removing tonsils or inserting a pacemaker. You're ending a child's life in the most barbaric way possible. Any reasoning you could come up with justifying an abortion can be countered with a paralel of a child already out of the womb.

I believe ALL abortions are wrong, but legislatively would be willing to make exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mom (all of which are extremely rare). But even in those cases, if someone broke into your home, held you and your 6 month old at gunpoint, then said it's your choice.......he kill you or your baby. Who would you choose to die? Would you hand over your baby to him to kill so you could live?

I'm not saying these are emotionally easy choices. But killing children in any form is unconscionable. This is simply an "out of sight, out of mind" issue (ie, "if I don't see the child being killed, then no skin off of my nose").
 
Old 06-05-2019, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Any reasoning you could come up with justifying an abortion can be countered with a paralel of a child already out of the womb.
You are welcome to your opinion but not everyone believes a fetus is the same as a "child already out of the womb".

Those who do not believe they are the same have just as much right to their belief as you do to yours.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Then why are you wasting time here? Since you quite strongly believe most abortion is nothing but murder, why aren't you at an abortion clinic standing in the doorway to block pregnant women from entering?
Or better still, on Capitol Hill rallying for a 1st world paid maternity leave policy, expanded welfare, protections in the workplace for pregnant women, universal healthcare, attention to rural healthcare, and other policies that would make pregnancy a feasible option?
 
Old 06-05-2019, 06:18 PM
 
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Or better still, on Capitol Hill rallying for a 1st world paid maternity leave policy, expanded welfare, protections in the workplace for pregnant women, universal healthcare, attention to rural healthcare, and other policies that would make pregnancy a feasible option?
Yep, but it’s so much cheaper to just blame the woman for opening her legs, force her to give birth and then call her irresponsible when she struggles to feed her family.
 
Old 06-05-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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Yep, but it’s so much cheaper to just blame the woman for opening her legs, force her to give birth and then call her irresponsible when she struggles to feed her family.
She can open her legs all she wants to but if she doesn't want to get pregnant she and/or her partner should use birth control. There is only a 5% failure rate if birth control is used properly. Next......
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