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Old 06-14-2019, 09:40 PM
 
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Yet more revisionist history attempts by the authoritarian left these days. Yet another statue on the chopping block for removal......

Rumor is the statue is both racist and sexist, and enjoys eating cauliflower on the weekends.

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Old 06-14-2019, 09:47 PM
 
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What’s ‘revisionist’ about it? The fact that we rather brutally colonized the Americas and damn near wiped out the locals isn’t really new information.
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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What’s ‘revisionist’ about it? The fact that we rather brutally colonized the Americas and damn near wiped out the locals isn’t really new information.
Erasing/banning/tearing down/destroying monuments is an attempt to "revise" history. Also, attempting to control the rhetoric/speech surrounding historical events by calling everything racist and sexist is "revising" history to fit the rampant SJW thought police agenda/narrative in today's world.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:06 PM
 
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Deciding not to celebrate it in the public square anymore is not revising it in the slightest. Still in history books and museums.

Applying modern standards to them is unfair, absolutely. But taking down a statue, especially ones like the confederate ones erected well after the war for patently modern racist reasons, is not erasing history.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:16 PM
 
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We don't have to leave the country to fight the Taliban !!! They're here !!!
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:19 PM
 
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Time to start removing the statues of some Left-leaning people, as well.
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Old 06-15-2019, 12:09 AM
 
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Deciding not to celebrate it in the public square anymore is not revising it in the slightest. Still in history books and museums.

Applying modern standards to them is unfair, absolutely. But taking down a statue, especially ones like the confederate ones erected well after the war for patently modern racist reasons, is not erasing history.
Why not celebrate? It worked out well for us.
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Old 06-15-2019, 12:17 AM
 
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Why not celebrate? It worked out well for us.
Yeah and that’s a fair point to make. Just as long as we’re acknowledging that might indeed makes right.

But by that same token the Confederates shouldn’t be celebrated either way. Our might told them to go screw themselves. You can’t leave us now because you are us.

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Old 06-15-2019, 01:17 AM
 
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The woke are revolting.
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Old 06-15-2019, 01:49 AM
 
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Humans have been engaged in a diaspora from their point of origin in Africa, for at least 60,000 years. If you consider the contribution to our genes that Neanderthals/Denisovans made, that time goes back at least 400,000 years. During that time, in most inhabitable places, previous residents have been pushed out dozens of times, by newcomers. If the concept of native-only humans being allowed to live anywhere was carried out to its extreme, we'd all have to go back to the Great Rift Valley.

The Pioneers were just one small part of the continuous colonizations that have taken place in the area of this university, for the last 20,000 years or so. Were they any less worthy than the others that have come here? Each of those humans who are protesting this statue, is also a symbol of those colonizations. People seem to have a driving need to go to new places. It must be embedded in our genes and it would be dehumanizing, to block it. In fact, it can't be stopped and it is a losing game, to pretend that it ever would be.

I find it odd that although just across the open area from the "Pioneer Father" statue, is another statue of the "Pioneer Mother", that has not been mentioned by the protesters.
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