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View Poll Results: Support D.C. statehood?
Yes. End taxation without representation. 20 25.00%
No. Must prevent Democrat reps from being added at all costs. 17 21.25%
No. Explain reason if other than above. 43 53.75%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-16-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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This would require a constitutional amendment, which is not forthcoming.

DC, as noted above, is a federal district, not a state, for obvious reasons.

If DC residents want representation, there is no inherent barrier to the State of Maryland extending voting rights to them for that purpose. Otherwise, there simply is no compelling argument whatsoever for making a state out of a federal district.
Is this true? Can any state decide who is eligible to vote in that state? Could Florida grant voting rights to Puerto Ricans?
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Yes, such a difference. Looks nothing at all like the current flag.
Too busy. You’ll catch a seizure starring at that thing flapping in the wind.
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Yeah something like that could make more sense. But I'd like to see some solution that gets the 4+ million citizens in D.C. and the territories some real representation.

What's not "real" about providing District residents with voting membership in the House of Representatives in proportion to their population? As for the territories, I think they ought to be given their independence and cast off. But that's an argument for another thread.
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Is this true? Can any state decide who is eligible to vote in that state? Could Florida grant voting rights to Puerto Ricans?
If those states wanted to, yes. Maryland would have to change its Constitution and a couple laws but it could be done: "The franchise shall also be granted to those residing in the Federal District for the purposes of electing holders of the following offices".

As it is in Maryland there is case law and local election board decisions that allows people who don't live in a jurisdiction but really want to to vote in local elections. It was only 1986 when nonresident property owners were disallowed from voting wherever they owned property. It was 2008 until the last jurisdiction changed its voting laws to conform with the Federal District Court decision disallowing nonresident voting.

There are also changing definitions of residence and domicile.
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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This fall a house committee will hold a hearing on granting D.C. full statehood. Do you support that and an end to their taxation without representation? Or do you side with McConnell who opposes it solely because it would likely give more power to Democrats?
Where's the quote from McConnell stating that he opposes "solely" for the reason you give? Supply a quote or retract the claim. There are many reasons to oppose. I suspect there would be wide support for annexation of DC by Maryland, but for some reason that is not pursued.

The creation of DC was engineered by Alexander Hamilton in exchange for agreement to 'assumption' (transfer of state debt to national debt). If we're going to re-do the deal, we need to go back and look at our debt arrangements.
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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This is another example of a completely distractive issue, similar to reparations, ending the EC, and impeachment. No way is a GOP-controlled senate going to sign off on granting DC statehood when it would immediately guarantee 2 additional Dem senators virtually forever.

Why the need for so many distractive issues?
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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Where's the quote from McConnell stating that he opposes "solely" for the reason you give? Supply a quote or retract the claim. There are many reasons to oppose. I suspect there would be wide support for annexation of DC by Maryland, but for some reason that is not pursued.

The creation of DC was engineered by Alexander Hamilton in exchange for agreement to 'assumption' (transfer of state debt to national debt). If we're going to re-do the deal, we need to go back and look at our debt arrangements.
https://twitter.com/resistbot/status...57721399037953


Doesn’t want 4 senators added. Not for any philosophical reason. Just that they would be democrats.
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Old 07-16-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Where's the quote from McConnell stating that he opposes "solely" for the reason you give?
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Doesn’t want 4 senators added. Not for any philosophical reason. Just that they would be democrats.
Props for at least replying, but the tweet you post does not contain the word 'solely.' You misquote.
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Old 07-16-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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Props for at least replying, but the tweet you post does not contain the word 'solely.' You misquote.
Did you watch the video? Sorry, the only stated reason. Can't say what's in his head.
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Old 07-16-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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Do they really want to become the smallest state in the country, even smaller than Rhode Island? I think 50 states enough!
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