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What I don't understand is how can bernie run as a democrat when is NOT a democrat.
He has run as an Independent his entire carer, "Sanders's 1990 victory made him the first independent candidate to be elected to Congress since Frazier Reams in 1950."
Not just teachers, the Dems' platform is to strip all union member workers of their cadillac plan private health insurance. That's a losing position if I ever saw one.
The Dem’s?
Some of the candidates are not “ The Dems”.
Right now, two of the four front runners are NOT advocating for this.
I think most Americans probably are on prescription drugs, don't you? We have an obesity and diabetes epidemic. (Funny you should mention clowns...clowns are all orangey, aren't they? Barnum & Bailey showmen...entertainers...performers....remind you of someone?)
Only a few of the Democratic candidates want to remove insurance companies from the health care field, so that hc won't be a for-profit business for them. That does add a lot of money to the cost of health care in the U.S. Most of the candidates want to add a public option to the ACA and/or expand Medicare/Medicaid, things like that.
Some of the other First World countries have single payer, but ins. cos. still exist for those who can afford to pay them (since that adds another layer of cost, on top of the cost of health care).
I don’t think most Americans under 65 are on prescription drugs.
75% of us are overweight/ obese and Diabetes is an epidemic. It should come as no surprise we spend the most.
Rest of the developed world has Universal Healthcare. No two countries do it the same way. Some rely entirely on private insurers. Most are a mixed bag of public and private.
Bernie sounded angry last night, angry old man who never worked very hard in his life, but love to agitate and give free stuff. There’s always stupid people out there who believe him.
Yeah that healthcare plan thing I think hit him hard. Republicans had almost a decade to come up with a plan yet when trump was elected they finally showed they had none. That isn't his fault.
No, it is quite his fault. He said he was going to "do healthcare" (whatever that means), it was "going to be so easy", it was going to be "far less expensive and far better," and they were going to "repeal and replace". Then after being elected he said "nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated," which is only something a moron would say. I'd say most adults who pay medical bills, have a functioning brain and are honest with themselves knew that was a BS statement. So the guy explicitly campaigned on having the answers, therefore you can't blame Republicans. The Republicans' plan all along was just to repeal and go back to whatever we were doing in 2008 with millions less people with insurance and pre-existing conditions not being protected.
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Compare Trump's talking points to the candidates tonight...and you will see that at least his policies are actually being implemented (tariffs, holding China's feet to the fire, getting us out of entanglements that benefit the other countries and screw the US, the list goes on).
Tariffs are not helping. I work for a company that relies on a lot of raw materials. Costs are going up on steel and aluminum for instance. Farmers are getting killed on tariffs. They're losing customers, and then the U.S. government is spending billions to bail them out of the mess the stupid tariff policy created. Trump did his dumb photo ops with Kim Jong Un, giving legitimacy to a dictatorial regime that has slave labor camps and murders its citizens. They haven't done jack to reduce their missle program. Iran has had more uranium enrichment since we scrapped the nuclear deal.
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A bunch are just saying things to get elected even when they know the majority of what they "propose" is just made up feel good stuff that has zero chance of getting through any sort of bipartisan voting process.
See healthcare example above about just saying stuff to get elected. Literally what Trump did. Also what Trump did RE: "Mexico's gonna pay for the wall."
Trump's also saying a bunch of "feel bad" stuff for the 2020 election. Literally telling people that they better vote for him otherwise their 401ks will lose value. Totally stupid. The stock market went up every year under Obama, which was no more due to him than the stock market increases under Trump (it's because of the Fed policies).
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