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Old 11-05-2019, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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We will need some population growth.

We will not allow legal immigration anymore.

Trump EO set that one up.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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We will need some population growth.

We will not allow legal immigration anymore.

Trump EO set that one up.
Huh?
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:31 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Hispanic women no longer account for the majority of immigrant births in the U.S.

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They're not.

We're running out of a workforce population and I project that will have more of an impact on you all, in about 25 years.
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Actually, we do NOT need more illiterate, uneducated masses in our labor market. There will be robots and AI. And, if the H1b visa numbers were reduced, we could have more citizens in these positions in the tech sector. Don’t you pay attention to posters on here who are in these fields telling it like it is?
Our Misplaced Fear of Job-Stealing Robots

"Employment in some sectors in which employees tend to have less education is still strong, particularly the service sector. As well-paid professionals settle in cities, they create a demand for services and new types of jobs. Autor calls these occupations “wealth work jobs,” which include employment for everything from baristas to horse exercisers. The 10 most common occupations in the U.S. include such jobs as retail salespersons, office clerks, nurses, waiters, and other service-focused work. Notably, traditional occupations, such as factory and other blue-collar work, no longer make the list."
^ Not sure what that will look like in 25 years though ...
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we could have more citizens in these positions in the tech sector
Not if they weren't birthed, you can't. And those that are (STEM qualified) of college age are choosing other majors. If the u.s. was a socialist country, they'd have no other choice, but to go into STEM fields; keep that in mind as you mull things over.
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Some comments made in this thread should have been posted when Tesla arrived with the 4 cents in his pocket and a nothing promising look to him ...
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:36 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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We will need some population growth.

We will not allow legal immigration anymore.

Trump EO set that one up.
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Huh?
Trump’s crackdown hits legal immigrants

"It's a reduction in how many people enter the U.S. by entirely legal means."
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:46 PM
 
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At least they are having (future tax payers) babies ... as opposed to those who decided they could not afford them. The government should be pleased ... Honestly if money is the reason to have a baby ... just stop.

Baby Boom to Baby Bust – The Crisis in Socialism

"There is a real crisis in the fertility rate which has fallen to such a low level that all the socialism going forward will simply collapse. What used to be the Baby Boom is now being called the “Baby Bust,” which means that in all first-world countries there is a real crisis for they have insufficient children to maintain their population size. This has been one excuse for allowing the refugees into Europe. As the population dwindles, all the social programs are collapsing for they were NEVER designed properly from the outset. They are based on a Ponzi scheme where they rely on taxing a growing younger population to service the benefits of the older generation. This was the entire scheme behind Obamacare. Force the youth to buy insurance they do not need to reduce the cost for the elderly."
How do you know they'll be future taxpayers? Aren't you liberals always going on about being trapped in the cycle of poverty? These babies are more likely than not to grow up and become another generation of "takers" - the half NOT paying toward the federal government but having baby after baby of their own, knowing that the full array of public assistance programs will be available to them.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:03 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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How do you know they'll be future taxpayers? Aren't you liberals always going on about being trapped in the cycle of poverty? These babies are more likely than not to grow up and become another generation of "takers" - the half NOT paying toward the federal government but having baby after baby of their own, knowing that the full array of public assistance programs will be available to them.
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How do you know they'll be future taxpayers?
How do you know that they won't?

Rachel, is the only value (slavery redefined) a person has is what they can produce for their government? I know that is how government sees its people, including you, but is that who we are to each other, too?
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Poverty breeds poverty, happens so much, it's become a cliche.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:20 PM
 
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How do you know that they won't?

Rachel, is the only value (slavery redefined) a person has is what they can produce for their government? I know that is how government sees its people, including you, but is that who we are to each other, too?
Huh? .....You sound as if you are resentful that our government would expect people who enjoy taxoayer benefits to CONTRIBUTE something toward keeping those benefits going.

Liberals keep revealing more and more of their destructive thinking. You also seem to think more highly of irresponsible people who have babies they couldn't afford ("future taxpayers," you called them) than people who did not have children they couldn't afford.

THAT is a huge problem when voters think that people who have baby after baby, requiring taxpayers to support them, are more admirable than responsible people who support themselves and their families.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:28 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Poverty breeds poverty, happens so much, it's become a cliche.
Interesting to me that we never talk about the ones that do well, in spite of all odds that are stacked against them. The difference between people who are pessimist and those who are optimist, I guess. Or is that something that is constructed by design?

The Behavioral Aspects of Poverty

"Poverty in America is overwhelmingly associated with the failure to work on a full-time basis. Many immigrant families do well in the United States despite their lack of education because they tend to form stable families and work harder than many similarly disadvantaged native-born Americans. Yet these mobility-enhancing behaviors, and the attitudes that foster them, often disappear within a generation or two, suggesting that it may be aspects of American culture rather than economic stresses alone that hinder further progress."
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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We will need some population growth.

We will not allow legal immigration anymore.

Trump EO set that one up.
*drool*

I "think" what you're referring to with "Trump EO" is refugees. That has next to nothing to do with legal immigration.
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