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Would you say a woman who decides not get get into an elevator with three men because she feels uncomfortable is a "paranoid idiot"?
I have never not entered a lift with men in it, even strangers. But if a woman was uncomfortable, fine because she would be overpowered in that situation. Women are afraid of being raped and killed, in my eyes that is worse than anything some "snowflake millennial" as you put it, can throw at you. Especially when it's usually a he said/she said situation that goes nowhere legally.
I have been falsely accused in my career. I have detailed the event in another discussion and won't bother repeating it now, but I have had the pleasure of seeing the "accusation confers guilt system" up close and personal.
Yes, I escaped with my life and career intact, and yes, my accuser ended up falsely accusing one person too many and got her legal comeuppance (years after what she did to me), but I did indeed have to prove my innocence. I learned a valuable lesson from that experience, and it has served me well ever since - your interactions with women in the workplace will have witnesses, or there will be no interactions.
I drive my car defensively and figure that exactly every driver other than me is a) not paying attention and b) mentally handicapped. This defensive mindset has served me well and as a result, it's been 31 years since I have been in an accident beyond a fender bender where I was at a complete stop and unable to avoid being rear-ended.
Defensive mindsets are a fabulous tool for survival and longevity.
Now, it could be because I did law enforcement, or I spent many years riding a motorcycle, or I was stationed on a fast attack submarine, or even my false accusation episode, but figuring the world sucks and you better keep your head on a swivel just seems to work for me. And I live just fine. In fact, I dare say I prosper if my personal, career and financial lives are any indication.
I learned to drive defensively when I only had my driver's license for a month. I was working for a company in the heart of Chicago, just a mile from Wacker Blvd. Driving around in that kind of rush hour traffic, you do have to assume any driver, at any moment will suddenly veer their car into yours.
So guess I was baptized into it
Those women who seek to ruin people's lives, either for the thrill of it, or out of spite, are kind of like cars in rush hour, they can veer into your life without warning, and ruin your life in an instant.
Sad to say, but that is the way it is. Get nominated to the SCOTUS, or become famous or notable in any way, and some crazy woman, with the "we believe her crowd" behind her, can destroy your reputation and professional career.
Lol, what a bunch of pathetic guys. Normal guys who respect women don’t have this problem at the workplace.
Stop talking to women coworkers? Lol How is that even possible? Communication is key in the work place.
I can see how perverted men are paranoid. They should be.
That's easy for you to say, unless you have been in a workplace where this kind of destructive behavior by women is seen and experienced a few times a every year.
I have never not entered a lift with men in it, even strangers. But if a woman was uncomfortable, fine because she would be overpowered in that situation. Women are afraid of being raped and killed, in my eyes that is worse than anything some "snowflake millennial" as you put it, can throw at you. Especially when it's usually a he said/she said situation that goes nowhere legally.
What percentage of woman who get in an elevator with men are sexually assaulted, because if it's low, you're being a hypocrite.
You basically say that since the frequency of men being falsely acvused, they are "paranoid idiots" for avoiding a situation they ferl might harm them.
So if the frequency of women being attacked on an elevator is also low, either they are also "paranoid idiots" or you're being a hypocrite.
Lol, what a bunch of pathetic guys. Normal guys who respect women don’t have this problem at the workplace.
Stop talking to women coworkers? Lol How is that even possible? Communication is key in the work place.
I can see how perverted men are paranoid. They should be.
I agree.
I know more women who have been made to feel uncomfortable at work than I know men who were falsely accused. I only know one who has been falsely accused.
I would say that this is mostly about chauvinistic, right wing men who are upset that women don't know their place anymore (i.e. in the home) and that they are being asked to take into account other peoples' feelings. They're not used to it.
Stop talking to women coworkers? Lol How is that even possible? Communication is key in the work place.
Nobody said stop talking to women period. What has been said and repeated ad nauseum is to not have conversations alone unless you have a business reason to do so. Don't be alone period, unless there is a business reason to do so (one on one meetings for example). No lunches, no happy hours, etc alone, because there is no business reason for doing so.
Basically, if the interaction doesn't serve a business purpose, don't have it. And if business does demand it, try like heck to make sure witnesses are there. I interact with the women in my office any time a business reason requires it, and almost never when it does not. At work, do work. If you don't need to be alone with a women because of a specific business reason, don't be. It's not real hard to figure out.
And in your personal life, just remember Chris Hardwick and Aziz Ansari and in every situation ask yourself if you have properly covered all your defensive bases, even against the most absurd warping of the current situation? Sure, everything is great and you're nothing but a proper gentleman, but can you prove that tomorrow, beyond any reasonable doubt, to even the most fevered SJW observer? If not, you may want to rethink the current situation and the GTFO of it.
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