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Old 09-02-2019, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What argument against voting for trump in 2020 is most persuasive?
A combo of his stupidity, greed, incompetence and psychotic narcissism.

That'll do for starters.

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Old 09-02-2019, 08:47 AM
 
Location: southern california
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White, male, old and conservative
The usual deal breakers for the current population of loved filled unprejudiced fine upstanding citizens
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The best "argument" against voting for Trump would have been: Tulsi Gabbard.

But it's apparent that the msm didn't like her all too well, so when she missed a deadline for a debate, they wasted no time trashing her in the press, and so did some lefties who are afraid of her because she uses common sense.


Common sense is like Kryptonite to Democrats and the media.

Tusli may as well have been a Conservative as far as they were concerned.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:52 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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White, male, old and conservative
The usual deal breakers for the current population of loved filled unprejudiced fine upstanding citizens
Except for "conservative" that could describe Biden who I support and intend to vote for. By the way, Trump is a statist, not a conservative.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:02 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Argument that wins: Trump and GOP are gutting regulations that protect poor and middle class, leaving us at mercy of billionaires. We are giving up the New Deal that created largest middle class in world history

Losing arguments: open borders, reparations, multi person genderless restrooms
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Bush listened to his national security team before invading Iraq, better?
Bush abdicated his leadership and was led around by Cheney on a leash.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Dems and their propaganda arm of CNN and MSNBC just cannot grasp the simple fact that a majority of Americans do not want a fringe leftist in office. Trump is a very flawed man, but democrats just cannot seem to get out of their own way to capitalize on this. It matters not who they nominate. Some of the ones who I thought would make a good nominee never had a chance in hell from the get go (Hickenlooper, Gabbard).

The biggest argument against voting for Trump (based on what many of my left leaning friends have told me) is that they simply want someone who is more "presidential" in the WH. Someone who is not a bully and knows when to keep his mouth shut and speak appropriately. So really it boils down to his personal behavior and not his policies.

With that being said, this is why democrats have no chance in 2020. They cannot and will not win on any policy front. They have nothing positive to offer hard working Americans. All they can do at this point is try to make Trump look horrible in the hopes that enough low information voters will fall for their far left "gimme free sh*t" agenda.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The best argument would be a Democratic candidate that would allow an undecided voter to vote Democratic, rather than just not voting. The current cast isn't very compelling.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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I saw this question yesterday posted on twitter by Ben wikler, chairman of the democratic party of Wisconsin, and thought it was an interesting question. what is your answer?

https://twitter.com/benwikler/status...08611387428864
There are plenty of good reasons not to vote for Trump. The problem is, there are very few, if any, good reasons to vote for any Democrat.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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The biggest argument against voting for Trump (based on what many of my left leaning friends have told me) is that they simply want someone who is more "presidential" in the WH. Someone who is not a bully and knows when to keep his mouth shut and speak appropriately. So really it boils down to his personal behavior and not his policies.
Perhaps you stop listening or discount other reasons (that's called denial) or they consider you a hopeless failure in your reasoning. Trump's trade and foreign policies have crippled this country by turning us into a pariah internationally and he will ruin everything we have accomplished on the environment level. His failure to accept the science of global climate change is one good reason to vote against him. He sees it as a money making opportunity (Buy Greenland!). There once was a time when clean water and clean air mattered -- not under Trump. He opposes almost everything environmentalists stand for. He will gleefully sell off national monuments and authorize oil drilling on critical protected land. His trade war has sold farmers down the river -- and he brags about "winning". His idea of winning is bailouts to the squeaky wheels and to hell with everyone else. (And Trumpers have the stupidity to talk about "free stuff" from Democrats.) His immigration policy fiasco is straight from Joseph Goebbels -- always make it look like something is happening -- and has its roots in that condemned Nazi era. He has no healthcare strategy or policy. He could have been the infrastructure president but failed miserably on that.

There is plenty to complain about with Trump's personal faults and moral failures and his likely mental and emotional defects and instability but Trumpers make the willful choice to discount all of that and either ignore or stay ignorant of his policy crimes and failures. They purposely focus on his diversionary side shows and petty quarrels with public figures as a substitute for any policy or substance.
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