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It should be legal for such a business(non-essential) to deny service due to someone being gay, straight, black, white, Christian, Jewish, Irish, blonde, long haired or any other rrason they may choose.
You should be able to associate or not associate with anyone you choose unless it causes harm, and hurt feelings doesn't count as harm.
No such thing as non essential/essential in the world of business, only customers.
The life or comfort of an other person is of no concern to me - If I can deny a person the sale of an ice cream, then I should be able to deny them medical care.
But I would suggest in the interests of civility, that there be no exceptions -either that or complete free reign to openly display hate, whatever the situation.
No such thing as non essential/essential in the world of business, only customers.
The life or comfort of an other person is of no concern to me - If I can deny a person the sale of an ice cream, then I should be able to deny them medical care.
But I would suggest in the interests of civility, that there be no exceptions -either that or complete free reign to openly display hate, whatever the situation.
Shouldn't we outlaw curse words in public in the interest of civility?
Obviously, hurt feelings are more important to safeguard than freedom of speech just like hurt feelings are more important than freedom of association.
Shouldn't we outlaw curse words in public in the interest of civility?
Obviously, hurt feelings are more important to safeguard than freedom of speech just like hurt feelings are more important than freedom of association.
Personally I don't think so.
I find the notion of regulated hate such as you espouse nothing more than legally enforced hypocrisy - if you hate someone enough not to want to sell them a big of chips, then you shouldn't be forced to save their life.
It’s simple. If you hate people based on race, gender or national origin so much that you don’t want to sell them chips or save their lives, don’t open a business or work in a field that requires selling chips or saving lives.
But I find the notion of regulated hate such as you espouse nothing more than legally enforced hypocrisy - if you hate someone enough not to want to sell them a big of chips, then you shouldn't be forced to save their life.
What hate am I espousing other than not agreeing with you.
I'm guessing you want laws for that as well. Anybody who offers anither opnion is espousing hate speech and needs to be penalized.
You don't seem to be a fan of freedom or liberty I see.
What does any of that matter ?????? You arent disputing the story itself.
It matters because I don't give automatic validity to the original referenced article that was written based on rando, third hand tweets that referenced an unknown person's facebook post.
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It’s simple. If you hate people based on race, gender or national origin so much that you don’t want to sell them chips or save their lives, don’t open a business or work in a field that requires selling chips or saving lives.
A much simpler solution would be to just ban discrimination with regards to services.
So just how far does religious belief go when it comes to the laws of this country?
Venue owner found out that the couple were not of the same race and denied rental of the venue citing her "Christian race, er Christian beliefs".
I was saying that when businesses were told that they could use "religious belief" to refuse service to gays that it would open the door to racists to do the same. Seems that I was right. Either religious belief trumps any and all laws or it doesn't.
And the thing is, there is nothing in the Bible that explicitly condemns interracial marriage. I don't see this as a "religious belief" issue. I think this is just a plain old bigotry issue. And I hope the person who runs that venue gets sued for ever penny.
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