Who, in your life, would you be willing to sacrifice to keep your guns? (drug, borders)

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by jojajn

You seem to be struggling with how to interpret a research manuscript. You are conflating the methods of cited past research with the results of the current research. Research manuscripts of current research typically cite past studies. I can't explain it any clearer than that.

What you provided is clearly talking about prior research, so is it using the prior data or not?



If it's not, then why is that data provided?

[Cruithne]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

If you insist on proving you gun ignorance, that's fine.

You believe a 410 shotgun is designed to kill people? You're obviously not an engineer of any sort.

I never stated any type of gun.

[jojajn]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

No, no they are not.....you should learn about guns before you spew....really....


But, I'll play....cars are used for travel, yet they kill far more than guns yearly.....I'm removing suicide from the equation....


Now what's your response?

What is the ratio of deaths by car accidents/total number of cars in US to the ratio of gun deaths/total number of guns in US?

[Cruithne]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

No, no they are not.....you should learn about guns before you spew....really....


But, I'll play....cars are used for travel, yet they kill far more than guns yearly.....I'm removing suicide from the equation....


Now what's your response?

So you just said that guns are not designed to kill things




Theres no arguing with people in such denial. It's laughable.

[reed067]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

I don't have a lot of guns.....but I do collect for the value of the gun.....


Is that a concept that both of you don't understand?

So you have guns like a HK MP5 SD 9mm submachine gun laying around. And I mentioned that some people collect guns so again you’re wrong.

[jojajn]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

What you provided is clearly talking about prior research, so is it using the prior data or not?



If it's not, then why is that data provided?

All good research manuscripts provide information about prior related studies and how/why their research will be different/improved. It is up to the reader to interpret this information.

As for you, you can't seem to get beyond a 2004 study done by phone that was described/cited by the 2015 research.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Cruithne

I never stated any type of gun.

Like I said before, most rifles are not designed for killing people but for hunting and target practice.

So, are you agreeing or disagreeing?

[No_Recess]

Whose natural rights, in your life, would you be willing to sacrifice to confiscate their guns?

[T-310]

Originally Posted by jojajn

Without them doing any crime? Now you are sacrificing our civil rights in addition to friends and family.

So now you are willing to put you and your relatives at risk because a mentally unstable person might get a weapon.

And by confiscating guns you are sacrificing our civil rights.

Your argument works both ways.

My argument preserves lives, yours doesn’t no matter how much you demonize the instrument.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by jojajn

What is the ratio of deaths by car accidents/total number of cars in US to the ratio of gun deaths/total number of guns in US?

In 2018 there were 36k+ motor vehicle deaths......even if we use suicides for guns deaths, you still fall short....


Do we need to do the math for you or do we need to get a 5th grader?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_...n_U.S._by_year