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This case underscores one of the big differences between burglaries in Europe vs burglaries in the USA. Here in the USA, home invasions and happen overwhelmingly when you are not home. Anyone thinking about robbing you has no idea whether the homeowner has a gun. Walking into any situation where people might be shooting back from heaven knows where is something thieves generally try to avoid.
In Europe, the vast majority of home invasion and burglaries happen while you're home. Why? They're not worried about you being armed. They know you aren't. So robbing the people while their home gives you a crack at stealing all valuables they have on their person. Things like wedding rings, jewelry, wallets, cash, credit cards, etc.
In Europe, the vast majority of home invasion and burglaries happen while you're home. Why? They're not worried about you being armed. They know you aren't. So robbing the people while their home gives you a crack at stealing all valuables they have on their person. Things like wedding rings, jewelry, wallets, cash, credit cards, etc.
Who told you this nonsense?
Of course a burglar prefers a home where no one is present, so no one would call the police or confront them with, or without weapons.
Stop making stuff up.
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 09-19-2019 at 06:02 AM..
This case underscores one of the big differences between burglaries in Europe vs burglaries in the USA. Here in the USA, home invasions and happen overwhelmingly when you are not home. Anyone thinking about robbing you has no idea whether the homeowner has a gun. Walking into any situation where people might be shooting back from heaven knows where is something thieves generally try to avoid.
In Europe, the vast majority of home invasion and burglaries happen while you're home. Why? They're not worried about you being armed. They know you aren't. So robbing the people while their home gives you a crack at stealing all valuables they have on their person. Things like wedding rings, jewelry, wallets, cash, credit cards, etc.
You have to remember that in the UK it's essentially illegal to defend yourself.
The 78-year-old was held on suspicion of murder after the 38-year-old died of his wounds in hospital in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
Police said the struggle broke out after the pensioner, named locally as Richard Osborn-Brooks, found two men inside his home in South Park, Hither Green, south London shortly after midnight.
One of the burglars, who was armed with a screwdriver, forced the homeowner into his kitchen while his accomplice went upstairs.
Detectives believe a struggle then took place between "one of the males and the homeowner" and the 38-year-old intruder was stabbed in the upper body.
He was later found collapsed in nearby Further Green Road by paramedics from London Ambulance Service, who took him to a central London hospital where he died at 3.37am. Police were unable to confirm whether the suspect had been stabbed with the screwdriver.
The second suspect fled the scene before police arrived and is now being hunted by the Met’s Homicide and Major Crime Command.
“The 78-year-old resident found two males inside the address. A struggle ensued between one of the males and the homeowner. The man, aged 37, sustained a stab wound to the upper body.”
The home owner suffered bruising to his arms and his injuries are not life threatening.
Police arrested him on suspicion of grievous bodily harm before then arresting him on suspicion of murder.
He was taken to a south London police station where he remains at this time.
Even your own article proves you wrong, so why even post it?
Quote:
“The law says that a person can use reasonable force when defending himself, his family or property. If the intruder is running away the threat has diminished but if that person stays where they are that’s an assault and if they are armed with a weapon then it would be regarded as aggravating circumstances,” said Mr Brennan.
He added: “I cannot see any jury convicting someone in a case where the householder, for example, takes a knife and in a struggle with the burglar injures him.
“There were other factors in the Tony Martin case that led him to be convicted of manslaughter.”
When an elderly man defends himself in his own home from two armed intruders, the elderly man is to blame and should be charged.
Can you read? Read what I just posted.
And no, the British laws regarding self defense have not changed. He was charged because he broke the laws.
1. The firearm he used was illegal,
2. His firearm licence had been revoked,
3. He used the firearm to shoot the burglar (aged 16) in the back while he was trying to flee
Also, the burglars were not 'armed' although one had a screwdriver on him.
Those are the laws of their land, and if you do not abide by them, you will be charged. It is as simple as that.
And no, the British laws regarding self defense have not changed. He was charged because he broke the laws.
1. The firearm he used was illegal,
2. His firearm licence had been revoked,
3. He used the firearm to shoot the burglar in the back while he was trying to flee
Those are the laws of their land, and if you do not abide by them, you will be charged. It is as simple as that.
A pump-action Winchester Model 1300 12 gauge, which holds 5 shells. They are illegal in UK, unless you have a specific permit for it, which he did not. Martin did not have any kind of permit after it was revoked related to other firearm offences (he took a shot at someone stealing an apple from his tree). I am familiar with this incident, so I don't need to read a tabloid version of it.
And no, the British laws regarding self defense have not changed. He was charged because he broke the laws.
1. The firearm he used was illegal,
2. His firearm licence had been revoked,
3. He used the firearm to shoot the burglar (aged 16) in the back while he was trying to flee
Also, the burglars were not 'armed' although one had a screwdriver on him.
Those are the laws of their land, and if you do not abide by them, you will be charged. It is as simple as that.
Can you?
The elderly man did not use a gun. Comprehension fail. Way to double down.
A pump-action Winchester Model 1300 12 gauge, which holds 5 shells. They are illegal in UK, unless you have a specific permit for it, which he did not. I am familiar with this incident, so I don't need to read a tabloid version of the events.
And that was used in a completely DIFFERENT CASE than this home invasion of the elderly man who is charged with murder.
Once again, read the article.
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