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View Poll Results: Should children have a right to completely choose the school they desire?
Yes 9 18.37%
No 40 81.63%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-18-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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If you don't have any children, who do you think will be taking care of you when you're old?

Our children will, that's who.

And you'd be fine with that person being unable to read a medicine bottle label.
So we educate people in order to make a claim on their future labor?

That's indentured servitude.
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Old 09-18-2019, 01:52 PM
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So we educate people in order to make a claim on their future labor?

That's indentured servitude.
No, businesses are expected to pay fair market wages for their work.

And yes, we educate people so we have an educated labor force and literate population.

So. Why do you think we educate ALL children, and don't require parents to pay?
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Old 09-18-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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If you don't have any children, who do you think will be taking care of you when you're old?

Our children will, that's who.

And you'd be fine with that person being unable to read a medicine bottle label.
You seem to have missed the part where I stated that "I'm playing the devil's advocate here since I do believe that our society benefits when we educate our young."

Actually, I have spent a lifetime devoted to post secondary education and the provision of public libraries - libraries are wonderful places where anyone can come to get all sorts of knowledge, education, and information.

Since I never had children of my own, the people who come after me will be my students. I hope that I helped them all along in the path toward their own educations - if only in the humblest of ways.
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Old 09-18-2019, 02:11 PM
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You seem to have missed the part where I stated that "I'm playing the devil's advocate here since I do believe that our society benefits when we educate our young."

Actually, I have spent a lifetime devoted to post secondary education and the provision of public libraries - libraries are wonderful places where anyone can come to get all sorts of knowledge, education, and information.

Since I never had children of my own, the people who come after me will be my students. I hope that I helped them all along in the path toward their own educations - if only in the humblest of ways.
I saw it.

I don't think we can have our population deciding, individually, what to fund. (I do think we should decide as a group, not an individual).

Otherwise, we'd have someone saying well, here's some money. I don't want to fund music but I do want to fund art.

Actually, no, here's your tax bill. Thanks.
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Old 09-18-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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No, businesses are expected to pay fair market wages for their work.
That wasn't your earlier point, though. You questioned another poster on who would take care of them when they are old, which implies that someone, somewhere has a claim already placed upon their future labor to take care of that person when they are old. From this you assert, that since that person's labor has been claimed in the name of the old person, they'd preferably be educated, thus making that labor more valuable at the time the person exercises what is apparently a rightful claim to that labor.
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And yes, we educate people so we have an educated labor force and literate population.
Again, not what you were implying in your rebuttal/question. You asked about someone being taken care of when they were old, and if they didn't have children of their own being obligated to that task, then apparently your children are. And again, since someone, somehwere is obligated to that future commitment, we better educate everyone so that those indentured to serving old people will be competent in their indentured duties.
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So. Why do you think we educate ALL children, and don't require parents to pay?
Apparently because we want our indentured servants to be capable, even if not willing, once we get old and subjugate them to carrying out the labor of caring for us in our elderly and helpless state.
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Old 09-18-2019, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Which kind of school?
Are we talking from elementary school?
No of course not.


University, yes, of course they should have a strong part in the decision.
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Old 09-18-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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In my state, parents (kids can't choose) can send their children to any school in the state that has room for them and they provide their own transportation if outside attendance boundaries for that school. Priority is for in-district students, but generally there is space available. Even with that, virtually all kids go to a neighborhood school. Parents have jobs, kids have neighborhood friends. People want good neighborhood schools, not busing (or driving). That's our goal.
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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Govt dictated compulsory education should be ended and all govt schools closed, allowing parents to make best choices in a free market with their own dollars.
Some people won't be satisfied until every government function, even ones that have served us well, are eliminated. If you want to live in a grim "dog eat dog" society then Russia might be right for you.
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Boston
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they certainly should be allowed to go to any school they can afford.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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Some people won't be satisfied until every government function, even ones that have served us well, are eliminated. If you want to live in a grim "dog eat dog" society then Russia might be right for you.
Russia, Russia, Russia...
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