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Old 09-21-2019, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by Chicano3000X View Post
It's funny how it works. You make a change and don't hit the ice burg because you diverted course then you get spat on by folks saying "see? there was no ice burg "..
Ya, your bleepin' welcome..?


But the US has already made a change.

We've spent the last 50 years lowering emissions and improving clean, renewable energy sources and technology.

I drive a full sized pickup that gets an unheard of 24 mpg average.

How about the rest of the world?

Why is it always America's fault and responsibility?
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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I’m not a climate change denier, but I am a climate change end of humanity denier. I keep seeing more and more uproar about climate change, yet still no cities being swallowed up by rising sea levels or Armageddon.
CC may cause end of humanity but more likely is, life will be far different from what it is now. And we are not going to wake up one morning and the sea is 20' higher. The changes will creep up on us and it will be hard to know when we have reached the tipping point. The alarmists are saying we need to take action now and not let it even start to creep up on us. I tend to agree with that. It will take a long time to get off of coal fired power plants for one thing so may as well get started now with projects like that that will take 30 years to complete.
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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Why is it always America's fault and responsibility?
...because we're stupid and got the money....it's the product of an affluent society

If we were worried about where our next meal was coming from, we would tell them all to pound sand....and we would be trying to figure out some scam to get their money
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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But the US has already made a change.

We've spent the last 50 years lowering emissions and improving clean, renewable energy sources and technology.

I drive a full sized pickup that gets an unheard of 24 mpg average.

How about the rest of the world?

Why is it always America's fault and responsibility?
We do our part and its important to make sure we keep doing it.

So if were on a boat and Im telling you to stop drilling holes, but you dont want to because bob on the other end of the boat gets to drill holes.

Why do you wanna be dumb like bob?
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:31 PM
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Default Why don’t Democrats DO SOMETHING about climate change??

So almost ALL DEMOCRATS believe we have less than 11 years left due to climate change, but have done absolutely nothing about combating climate change!!

California is in a big fight with Trump over Obama’s CO2 emission standards over the next 25 years. They will reduce CO2 emissions by 32% in 25 years. TOMORROW, the Governor of California can reduce CO2 emissions in California by 30% by simply reducing the California the speed limit to 55 MPH. He doesn’t need ANYBODIES permission!!

Why is he fighting Trump without taking action on his own?? Democrats control over 70% of the miles driven in this country. California, Washington, Oregon can start reducing CO2 emissions by a huge amount tomorrow. The other Democrat controlled states can follow suit.

In Washington state, Governor Inslee and the Democrats gave Boeing 10 BILLION dollars in “illegal” tax breaks according to the WTO. Given the awful impact of jet travel on climate change isn’t it time to rescind the tax breaks and put additional CLIMATE CHANGE TAXES on Boeing to discourage air travel. Democrats control both houses of the Legislature and the Governors office. Republicans cannot stop it.....why are Democrats refusing to fight climate change by removing the tax breaks??

Democrats like carbon taxes and cap and trade which will raise gasoline prices in the neighborhood of SEVEN dollars a gallon. Devasting to rural areas without public transit, but in blue urban area it would have a huge impact on climate change and the money could be used for public transit. So why NOT local urban gas taxes of two and three dollars a gallon to get started??

In Seattle, the Clinton got 90% of the vote in 2016. That is how liberal the city is in its political outlook.

Surely, if the Democrat leadership starts implementing these proposals the blue states will support and cheer these changes....and they don’t NEED TRUMP!!

Time for the Democrats to get serious about climate change and set a good example for the rest of the country.
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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So almost ALL DEMOCRATS believe we have less than 11 years left due to climate change..
If you believe that democrats believe that, you live on a different planet.
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:37 PM
 
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If you believe that democrats believe that, you live on a different planet.
The OP hasn't a clue what Democrats believe. No one believes there is only 11 years left. He needs to brush up on his facts before he posts.
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:37 PM
 
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So almost ALL DEMOCRATS believe we have less than 11 years left due to climate change, but have done absolutely nothing about combating climate change!!

California is in a big fight with Trump over Obama’s CO2 emission standards over the next 25 years. They will reduce CO2 emissions by 32% in 25 years. TOMORROW, the Governor of California can reduce CO2 emissions in California by 30% by simply reducing the California the speed limit to 55 MPH. He doesn’t need ANYBODIES permission!!

Why is he fighting Trump without taking action on his own?? Democrats control over 70% of the miles driven in this country. California, Washington, Oregon can start reducing CO2 emissions by a huge amount tomorrow. The other Democrat controlled states can follow suit.

In Washington state, Governor Inslee and the Democrats gave Boeing 10 BILLION dollars in “illegal” tax breaks according to the WTO. Given the awful impact of jet travel on climate change isn’t it time to rescind the tax breaks and put additional CLIMATE CHANGE TAXES on Boeing to discourage air travel. Democrats control both houses of the Legislature and the Governors office. Republicans cannot stop it.....why are Democrats refusing to fight climate change by removing the tax breaks??

Democrats like carbon taxes and cap and trade which will raise gasoline prices in the neighborhood of SEVEN dollars a gallon. Devasting to rural areas without public transit, but in blue urban area it would have a huge impact on climate change and the money could be used for public transit. So why NOT local urban gas taxes of two and three dollars a gallon to get started??

In Seattle, the Clinton got 90% of the vote in 2016. That is how liberal the city is in its political outlook.

Surely, if the Democrat leadership starts implementing these proposals the blue states will support and cheer these changes....and they don’t NEED TRUMP!!

Time for the Democrats to get serious about climate change and set a good example for the rest of the country.
It's too late. Nobody can turn what is happening to the planet around.
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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They like their lifestyle more than their beliefs.... CO2 is going to kill us and then buy an SUV..... CO2 is going to kill us and then ordering a hamburger.... CO2 is going to kill us and then buying as much carbon and toxic producing items as possible... Nevermind the constant buying of water bottles ...
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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They like their lifestyle more than their beliefs.... CO2 is going to kill us and then buy an SUV..... CO2 is going to kill us and then ordering a hamburger.... CO2 is going to kill us and then buying as much carbon and toxic producing items as possible... Nevermind the constant buying of water bottles ...
It's not just the Dems. It's the Reps. It's everybody.
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