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Originally Posted by neko_mimi
I mean, look at all this panic and hysteria. Don't you think the message is being pushed way too hard?
Or do you really believe that after ten years, humanity will be doomed?
I think that if you live in a coastal city, and you get hit with a hurricane, you dont care what its called, you just want your elected officials to be able to pay for sea walls, storm drains, and levees.
That shouldnt be so hard to understand, and yet it is for the right wing.
I think the message that everything has been figured out with high accuracy is being pushed way too hard. The early projections made have generally only been partially realized to date. The systems are probably even more complicated and confusing than the top 5,000 scientists have been able to figure out and there are some natural trends and system adaptations / "self-healings" that could counter current trends (for awhile or over what I would count as long-term).
I am skeptical that we only have 10-12 years to make dramatic change before it is "too late". Climate changes and consequences are probably on a sliding scale. What is often left out in the claim of only have 10-12 years to make dramatic change before it is too late is that much of the claimed damage coming after that point will still take 50-100+ years to be brought about and experienced. I still have some confidence in science and ingenuity to tackle problems that seem too big to slow, partially offset or reverse / solve.
The norms, comforts and preferences of modern humans are one set but the planet has gone thru changes vastly more extreme, shocking and traumatic for life forms and life. We will have to adapt but we have the ability to adapt. The extent of the adaptation required is not certain, total and probably not impossible.
Still, research is important and starting action is important and getting everyone involved is important and measuring the impact of corrective actions is important.
I might point out that our deranged governor, the one who sweats profusely, has fire in his eyes, smoke coming out his ears, and his body trembles erratically when he speaks about Trump. Once he heard our president announced that climate change was a hoax only to make people rich, Newsom was seen displaying all of the above symptoms. Now Newsom has decided with his executive order to take that $0.25+ gas tax per gallon increase and a doubled annual car registration and tax fee, well he now wants to spend those billions on AOC's green new deal. So we'll just have to watch our roads continue to crumble. But hey, on the high side, AOC will probably take notice of Newom's virtue signals - mission accomplished.
My family has owned some beach front property in New Jersey since the 1950's, and nothing has changed to the property landscape in those 75 years. I was a neighborhood party (my house which is not at the shore), we were talking about our shore house and my neighbor started yelling how we were idiots for having a shore house and its going to disappear in 5 years and her 'scientist' husband (he really is a retired biology researcher) backed her up, and they know everything because he is a 'scientist'.
The stupidity and rage of these (somewhat smart) people are unbelievable, I truly believe its demonic possession.
I mean, look at all this panic and hysteria. Don't you think the message is being pushed way too hard?
Or do you really believe that after ten years, humanity will be doomed?
America will be pretty insulated because we have he resources to deal with climate change, for now.
But, I’d love for a conservative to travel to a country like India and tell them the record high temperatures there are a “liberal hoax.”
“Like, I know 123 degrees out and your entire village had to abandon their centuries old farm, but climate change is totally a conspiracy by Obama and the lizard people bro”
That’s basically how conservatives are at this point.
America will be pretty insulated because we have he resources to deal with climate change, for now.
But, I’d love for a conservative to travel to a country like India and tell them the record high temperatures there are a “liberal hoax.”
“Like, I know 123 degrees out and your entire village had to abandon their centuries old farm, but climate change is totally a conspiracy by Obama and the lizard people bro”
That’s basically how conservatives are at this point.
Must be that white privilege that America isn't seeing that climate change.
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