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Old 09-30-2019, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Since Trump has the resources of the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, why the hell he sent that goofy Giuliani.
Goofy Guiliana destroyed Hillary's associate on that Sunday show.

That's why you are complaining about him.

The Ukraine prosecutor said Biden got him fired. The conflict of interest for Biden is undeniable. It is interesting the Democrats who seem to want to investigate everything about Trump or any of his associates don't see any reason to investigate Biden.

Ya'll want to investigate some nobody like Roger Stone but we can't touch the former VP. Gotta protect ole regular working man Joe.

 
Old 09-30-2019, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Democrats don't care if they get truck loads of money from pay for play... they are the corrupt party so why should they care.. They would vote Biden in and wouldn't care if he stole billions of tax payer money . They would say, look , Biden is a great president. He swindled and was cunning in getting away with it.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Since Trump has the resources of the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, why the hell he sent that goofy Giuliani.
Ask the State Department. They sent Guiliani. Proven with e-mails and is documented.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 06:45 PM
 
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Trump has nothing to run on in 2020. His main achievement is a tax cut for millionaires and billionaires. He managed to bring back a trillion dollar deficit. So now him and his cronies have to make up some crap about Biden that makes literally no sense. Trump is cooked.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 06:45 PM
 
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Ask the State Department. They sent Guiliani. Proven with e-mails and is documented.
The State Department works for Trump.

It was a stupid thing to do, and I doubt Pompeo made the decision. Rudy is Trump's friend and confidant, not Pompeo's. What do you think?
 
Old 09-30-2019, 06:47 PM
 
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Democrats don't care if they get truck loads of money from pay for play... they are the corrupt party so why should they care.
Are you suggesting that the Democrats have lots of hotels and resorts?
 
Old 09-30-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Open-D View Post
Sean is but one source, and I respect their opinions, their information, their guests and their conclusions.
I'm sure you do. Guess the year long tirade on Rich didn't bother you?
 
Old 09-30-2019, 07:11 PM
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Location: California
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
Goofy Guiliana destroyed Hillary's associate on that Sunday show.

That's why you are complaining about him.

The Ukraine prosecutor said Biden got him fired. The conflict of interest for Biden is undeniable. It is interesting the Democrats who seem to want to investigate everything about Trump or any of his associates don't see any reason to investigate Biden.

Ya'll want to investigate some nobody like Roger Stone but we can't touch the former VP. Gotta protect ole regular working man Joe.
No he's asking why would Trump send Rudy to do the DOJ's work if it was about a legit investigation.

And you really believe that Trump would push Ukraine to investigate Biden (again) if Biden wasn't his political rival?
 
Old 09-30-2019, 07:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
Trump is the head of the Department of Justice, FBI, and CIA.

All Rudy did is get affadavits from Ukraine and talk about their contents. That shouldn't threaten you if you care about the truth.

You know it is not good for your party's frontrunner, you try to characterize it as sinister. Lo and behold, you don't have anything about ole regular Joe bragging on camera about how he shut down an investigation of his crackhead son's company.
You are confused. Joe did not brag about shutting down an investigation of Burisma. Joe bragged about his role in terminating Victor Shokin, the then-inspector general who was profoundly corrupt. Now there was a Burisma investigation that was shut down while Hunter Biden was on the Burisma board. Pretty suspicious, huh. Worth of a RudyG allegation.

RudyG stays quiet. Why, you ask. It was a UK investigation in money laundering. Britain froze the London bank accounts of the Burisma founder, a Mr. Zlochevsky. The UK required documents from the Ukraine supporting the seizure. Not only did Ukraine not send them it instead sent a letter attesting there was no case against Zlochevsky. The UK was forced to release the assets - $23 million.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/w...iden-ties.html

Who was the prosecutor general - none other than Victor Shokin. The very same prosecutor that Rudy is relying on for dirt against Joe Biden. The very same prosecutor that Trump described as the very good prosecutor:

Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved.

You guys are so hoodwinked. Rudy is either totally incompetent, totally played, or is himself corrupt.

Those affidavits that you praise as containing truth came from none other than Victor Shokin. Ukrainians assert the affidavit contents reflect a Shokin plan to solicit bribes from Zlochesvky, for not activating a Ukrainian-based investigation of Burisma. (The one that RudyG maintains would threaten Hunter Biden.) Wanna bet that Zlochesvky paid some big bucks to Shokin for getting that letter sent to the UK resulting in the return of $23 million?

There is some serious sh - it going on here.

EDITED TO ADD - After writing the above I read this. A follow-up from the writer of the original NYT story.
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/25/...y-upside-down/

Last edited by EveryLady; 09-30-2019 at 07:50 PM..
 
Old 09-30-2019, 07:34 PM
 
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Biden has already been cleared. A nothing burger now.
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