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Old 10-06-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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That’s great, but what about the parts of the world that do not have access to sufficient hydropower resources? There aren’t many rivers left to dam. Unfortunately, coal is still the fastest growing source of energy globally.
My intro to environmental literature were Sierra Clubs book called Time and the River Flowing, and In Wildness is the Preservation of the World, which I read in my parent's living room in 1968. The former was about the wanton destruction of Glen Canyon, on the Colorado River and the projected damming of the Colorado River at the Grand Canyon. Environmentalists correctly and effectively blocked the latter atrocity.

That could well be advocated now, in the mad rush for "renewable energy", a solution in search of a problem.
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Nope, not nuclear. I don't think nuclear is the path we should take.
What ingenious path do you propose?
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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NOAA says the 20th-century average is 60.4 degrees...so if it's 1 degree warmer than average....it's 61.4
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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NOAA says the 20th-century average is 60.4 degrees...so if it's 1 degree warmer than average....it's 61.4
The NOAA has been "adjusting" the data, also known as cooking the books. So that also needs to be taken into account.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:02 PM
 
Location: USA
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Nope, not nuclear. I don't think nuclear is the path we should take.
Ok, so how do you plan to keep the lights on? We can’t use fossil fuels. We can’t use nuclear fission. What energy source should we use? What energy source will being the developing world out of poverty? What energy source will allow people in the first world to keep their first world standard of living?

What’s your plan?
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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The NOAA has been "adjusting" the data, also known as cooking the books. So that also needs to be taken into account.
Source? Citation?
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Ok, so how do you plan to keep the lights on? We can’t use fossil fuels. We can’t use nuclear fission. What energy source should we use? What energy source will being the developing world out of poverty? What energy source will allow people in the first world to keep their first world standard of living?

What’s your plan?
I think I'll leave that for the experts.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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You know that every time they release data, it says it is "adjusted". You have seen it on here.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:24 PM
 
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I think I'll leave that for the experts.
The experts from MIT:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...of-renewables/
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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NOAA says the 20th-century average is 60.4 degrees...so if it's 1 degree warmer than average....it's 61.4
Actually according to NASA the temperature has increased 0.8 C What's your point? Nobody said that we'll go up another degree overnight did they?

The results of 2 C warming compared to 1.5 C.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2865/a...atures-matter/
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Old 10-06-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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did you really think I was posting centigrade temperatures?.....

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NOAA says the 20th-century average is 60.4 degrees...so if it's 1 degree warmer than average....it's 61.4


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Actually according to NASA the temperature has increased 0.8 C What's your point? Nobody said that we'll go up another degree overnight did they?

The results of 2 C warming compared to 1.5 C.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2865/a...atures-matter/
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