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1. You fail to understand that the origins of liberalism were based on the efforts of Stalin through the Frankfurt School to undermine western civilization to make the west accept communism. The destruction of the middle class, the church, and the family is the basis of your core beliefs.
2. You abandon reason and common sense in favor of blind obedience to liberal doctrine. Witness leftist agendas such as "climate change", in which those who question the hypothesis are derided as "deniers", much like a medieval mob would hunt and label "witches". Ever ask a liberal to actually think or examine a situation? They recoil in horror and call you a "racist".
3. You have adopted totalitarian means of speaking and thinking as well as a tactic to silence and oppress anyone who thinks differently than you. Liberals have weaponized speech through political correctness in order to shape political and ideological thought. In doing so, freedom of speech is sacrificed for a political goal which is felt to be falsely more "virtuous" than liberty and individual freedom.
4. You have abandoned the rule of law in favor of what you consider to be more "lofty" objectives. These goals, of course, are false and are simply a means of culling individuals to embrace totalitarian rule through implementing issues such as "fairness" and "social justice". At face value, these are issues that everyone would welcome and embrace, yet are just authoritarian objectives packaged in a more palatable "wrapper" that seduces those who are emotionally susceptible to deceit.
Wake up and think- free yourself
When you step away from your insanely dense, hostile, and paranoid mental bunker you can tell someone else to wake up.
You have Trumpers who follow every word of their dear leader; who march in lock step with him;who believe all his lies; who support him no matter what he does, no matter how insane, calling others "indoctrinated".
As I said previously, it is all projection.
Pitiful and pathetic Trumpers projecting their insecurities and failures and mindlessness on others.
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....to indoctrinate, from the earliest age possible, the concept of "duty" and to scrub all notions of individuality out of the developing mind and replace them with the "virtues" of collectivism. That most of public education leans left is incidental, as the indoctrination goal would be the same if they all leaned right. Simply replace sophomoric Fabian socialism with a more authoritarian nationalism and the rest of the system is identical.
That is the purpose of the compulsory education system - embedding the ideal of duty to a collective in the mind of the individual. Day in, day out, the underlying message behind everything is some form of duty.
"Duty" as a concept is a mind killer. But that is what compulsory education exists for - to kill the individual mind and replace it with a properly constructed drone member of the hive mind. It isn't perfectly successful, as the ~1% of free thinking individuals who eschew collectivism can attest, but the ~99% success rate is pretty stellar. Captive audiences being bullied into Correct-Think and Correct-Speech about the collective, from age 3-4, is a pretty solid way of ensuring the survival of the collective itself.
Only thing I argue about this thread generally is the notion that only liberals are brainwashed/indoctrinated. LMAO. Conservatives are equally assimilated, they just buzz in a different frequency than the drones on the left. Both Team Red and Team Blue accept their duty to the collective, they simply argue over minor details in what exactly those duties are. And it is the acceptance of their duty to the collective that is the brainwashing, not the minutia of each and every mini-duty in and of themselves.
As a libertarian I'm neither right wing or conservative, but let me ask; what is the purpose of the govt education system if not to shape the mind in a certain direction?
I'm of the opinion that the states compulsory education system is the of the most damaging schemes forced on mankind.
Read up on how the Prussian method of education came to pass.
The purpose is to educate them so we will not have a bunch of uneducated people running around who cannot make an informed decision and we can compete. We're losing.
You have Trumpers who follow every word of their dear leader; who march in lock step with him;who believe all his lies; who support him no matter what he does, no matter how insane, calling others "indoctrinated".
As I said previously, it is all projection.
Pitiful and pathetic Trumpers projecting their insecurities and failures and mindlessness on others.
I see, so you're a mind reader? No one on either side of the aisle supports everything that their party or president does or says. There is no lock step and much is what is called lies by the left is just biased nonsense. Presidents/politicians set goals and just because sometimes those goals aren't achieved doesn't mean they were lying about it! If they think that their politicians aren't guilty of lying at some point also then they aren't dealing in reality such as "you can keep your doctor" by Obama.
Pitiful that lefties are such hypocrites and can't debate the issues without the juvenile personal attacks of the other side. I'm neither insecure nor mindless nor are most conservatives.
Because you and what right wing commentator said so?
I think the people experiencing one viewpoint are the right wing posters on here who spend most of their free time on Fox News, Breitbart and talk radio.
Oh, another mind reader. I form my own opinions I'm not influenced by any new's source. The facts are out there for anyone to see and using common and sense and logic is necessary to form opinions also.
I know plenty of liberals in my own family that watch CNN constantly so what's your point? Just more hypocricy by the liberal left.
For the most part ideologies on the left are collectivist in nature, right leaning ideologies are typically more centered on the individual.
I think you are correct though that it's not a matter of "thinking for yourself", because less competent people will tend to seek strength in numbers so they'll always lean a bit to the left and more competent people will tend towards more individualistic ideologies so that they aren't forced to carry so much dead weight.
I think most people find a healthy middle ground between the two.
So.....then right leaning people are not really family oriented.....because they are about individualism? The family is a "collective" construct.
Here is the thing. There needs to be a balance, in society, between individualistic and collective interest. Leaning to far one way or the other, for a prolonged period of time, is destructive. Oscillation around the middle is fine....but I tend to think that our society has gone too much in the direction of individualism....partly in order to feed the veracious appetite of capitalism....which is maximized by people behaving and buying as individuals as opposed to buying as collectives and sharing a good or service.
The right makes it seem like Americans are being VICTIMS of liberalism. They see the ideology as if it were a virus creating social disease.
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No one on either side of the aisle supports everything that their party or president does or says. There is no lock step and much is what is called lies by the left is just biased nonsense. Presidents/politicians set goals and just because sometimes those goals aren't achieved doesn't mean they were lying about it! 
If they think that their politicians aren't guilty of lying at some point also then they aren't dealing in reality such as "you can keep your doctor" by Obama. 
