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Old 10-08-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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I still don't see any issues on private prisons. who cares if they are profitable, since when are business's not in for money? The prisoners get paid for their labor. granted, very little. but if they didn't want to do it, they don't have too take up a job. Zero sympathy for those who go to prison, might be a few who are innocent, but the majority are indeed not.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Then would you like to raise taxes to maintain the present high incarceration rate in this country? Old prisons don't last forever. New prisons are not cheap to build.
If it keeps me, my family, and friends safe, yes, I’m willing to pay extra in taxes. This is beneficial to me. Me paying healthcare for illegal aliens, and or paying off other people’s student loans, DOES NOT benefit me.

In the county I live, over 40% of incarcerations are illegal aliens. Talk about wasted tax dollars. But somethings are worth the money.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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At least do some research before you make statements:

https://www.sentencingproject.org/pu...united-states/

For those too lazy too follow the link:

8.5% of prisoners, includes both state and federal inmates, are in private facilities. Not "half, if not more".

That represents 128,000 total, not "millions".
thank you for shooting down that tired talking point.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Democrats like AOC just aid in Trump's re-election. Good on AOC for helping to turn people away from the democrats.
This.

The media has figured this out. That's why they stopped giving her coverage. When she was first elected, CNN and other MSM covered her speeches. Then they realized she's so wacky and that she will actually help get Trump re-elected.

That's why she hardly gets any coverage anymore. Too bad.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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She's the gift that keeps on giving. The scary part is many Democrats like her and agree with her.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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She's the gift that keeps on giving. The scary part is many Democrats like her and agree with her.
yep. some of them are already posting in this thread
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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Criminals belong in jail.

If we have to build a prison on every street corner to accommodate all them, so be it. I’d gladly pay more taxes to expand our network of prisons.

Whatever happened to “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”??
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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At least do some research before you make statements:

https://www.sentencingproject.org/pu...united-states/

For those too lazy too follow the link:

8.5% of prisoners, includes both state and federal inmates, are in private facilities. Not "half, if not more".

That represents 128,000 total, not "millions".
You are correct. I was thinking of non-violent drug offenders. However, from your link:

"Since 2000, the number of people in private prisons has increased 47%, compared to an overall rise in the prison population of 9%. In six states, the private prison population has more than doubled during this period."

The for-profit prison system is driving the numbers of incarcerated. It is, after all, their business model and in their best interests to do so. And they have a very powerful lobby to make sure that trend continues. No one should profit from jailing people, especially when they are buying politicians to do so. The potential outcome of such a partnership is obvious.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:27 PM
 
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You are correct. I was thinking of non-violent drug offenders. However, from your link:

"Since 2000, the number of people in private prisons has increased 47%, compared to an overall rise in the prison population of 9%. In six states, the private prison population has more than doubled during this period."

The for-profit prison system is driving the numbers of incarcerated. It is, after all, their business model and in their best interests to do so. And they have a very powerful lobby to make sure that trend continues. No one should profit from jailing people, especially when they are buying politicians to do so. The potential outcome of such a partnership is obvious.
Yes, for profit prisons and jails are bad but not for the reasons you think. They are bad because the prisoner has to pay a fee for being incarcerated among other things. The for profit prisons and jails aren't imprisoning innocent people nor are they making people break the laws. Those same people would still be in prison or jail even if it wasn't a for profit. Why there is a rise in people being incarcerated is directly related to the heroin and opiate epidemic because those people are just straight up criminals looking to get a fix. They pull burglaries, muggings, etc.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:28 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You are correct. I was thinking of non-violent drug offenders. However, from your link:

"Since 2000, the number of people in private prisons has increased 47%, compared to an overall rise in the prison population of 9%. In six states, the private prison population has more than doubled during this period."

The for-profit prison system is driving the numbers of incarcerated. It is, after all, their business model and in their best interests to do so. And they have a very powerful lobby to make sure that trend continues. No one should profit from jailing people, especially when they are buying politicians to do so. The potential outcome of such a partnership is obvious.
Check again.

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2019.html

More people are in private prisons now because more are available than 20 years ago. Now, if that's good policy that is a debate.

For someone to get sentenced for a non-violent drug offense demands a definition. People still get sentenced for possession with intent to distribute, not so much for personal use possession unless it's their 20th time.
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