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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound
There are millions of people in therapy or all sorts of reasons. I am not a liberal but I could care less if someone feels that they want to live as a different gender. No one in my circle of family and friends is dealing with this but if they were I would support them and not point my finger and call them crazy.
The far right keeps fighting these losing issues. First was fighting civil rights, then gays and gay marriage and now this.
All you should be concerned with is living your life and your family. Just leave everyone else alone.
This statement is your opinion and not fact, as gender dysphoria is not considered a mental illness by the medical community.
Uhhh actually that's not true. Sorry. Research suggests it is related to attachment disorders, secondarily some kind of abuse. Gender disorders are usually classified as a type of mental illness. I learned all of the above from a doctor in my family. Because of the bullying issue, it is promoted as normal in the name of being humane.
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Originally Posted by T-310
To force this mental garbage on the population to force compliance for the mentally ill is stupid. Demanding to call a girl s guy or vice versa. Sorry not playing that stupid game.
^This sounds dangerously close to the argument made by segregationists in the deep south 60 years ago, but replacing African Americans with trans individuals....
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by DKM
Uhhh actually that's not true. Sorry. Research suggests it is related to attachment disorders, secondarily some kind of abuse. Gender disorders are usually classified as a type of mental illness. I learned all of the above from a doctor in my family. Because of the bullying issue, it is promoted as normal in the name of being humane.
Go back and read again. Gender Identity Disorder was the old condition that WAS listed as a mental illness, key word was, past tense. It was removed from the guidelines and changed to Gender Dysphoria a few years ago...
If by "the left" you mean the scientific community, then you're correct.
...The words are sometimes used interchangeably, but gender is different than sex; while sex refers to certain genetic traits assigned at birth, gender is understood by many researchers to be influenced by a range of societal, environmental, and genetic factors...
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by AHenriques1147
With respect to the bathroom issue, if you are presenting as a woman, use the woman's bathroom. If you are a transwoman who has not had the outdoor plumbing switched to indoor, then be very discrete and don't allow other women to see your penis.
If you're a transman, no man is going to care that you're in the bathroom. Segregated bathrooms are not for the safety of men, anyway.
Everyone needs to give and take a bit. It's not hard to do.
With respect to gender pronouns, I agree nobody should be forced to use any pronouns by law. But, don't be a dick about it. If someone has made a legit transition it's usually after much personal pain. Why would you purposely refer to a transman as a woman?
Of course, I don't believe in this "zir" crap. But that's a different story. And one that I think is preventing acceptance of legitimate trans people and trans rights.
Some of the people who are dickish about it seem to think that these individuals are just on the wrong path, and that like Tao from Gran Torino, they just need old Walt Kowalski (Clint Eastwood) to set them on the straight and narrow Freaking armchair quarterbacks....
Tell your 1st grader that we're talking about gender, not sex.
Even first graders know the truth on this one. This recent redefinition happened for the purpose of pushing an agenda. You bought it. You probably bought the recent racism redefinition too and believe black people can't be racist.
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