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Would you post a link to your statement that independents favor impeachment? last poll a few days ago I saw reflected 39% of independent voters were in favor of impeaching and removing trump.
There is no need for a formal vote for the impeachment inquiry that’s already started.
Thanks for playing, though.
...WRONG*
Article1, Section 2, Clause 5:
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The House of Representatives
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shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
The House of Representatives
Not the Speaker of the House or any Committee Member.
Why are the media in collusion with the Democrats trying to deceive the public? Like they have Cali Doll
CNN is being exposed as we speak, as a wing of the DNC and nothing else.
Think long and hard, before you let emotions take over, just what the motive is.
Politically Cheat, Lie & Deceive - Evil Communism.
Trumpers don't have the numbers to do so and independents favor impeachment. So trigger away.
Yeah.... see the issue here is that it's not just "Trumpers" who have been alienated by the actions of the fringe left that now control the DNC and I think you'll find that out in the upcoming election.
The exclusionary nonsense where you label anyone who didn't move to the far left with you a "Trumper" or "deplorable" is why Trump will be re-elected and the Republicans will take back the House.
Don't take the fact that there is always initial support for a spectacle to mean that this impeachment nonsense won't backfire... that's why House Democrats are so afraid of the process that they felt that they had to break with precedent.
Yeah.... see the issue here is that it's not just "Trumpers" who have been alienated by the actions of the fringe left that now control the DNC and I think you'll find that out in the upcoming election.
The exclusionary nonsense where you label anyone who didn't move to the far left with you a "Trumper" or "deplorable" is why Trump will be re-elected and the Republicans will take back the House.
Don't take the fact that there is always initial support for a spectacle to mean that this impeachment nonsense won't backfire... that's why House Democrats are so afraid of the process that they felt that they had to break with precedent.
Yeah... see this issue here is that it IS just the Trumpers who have been alienated. House democrats aren't voting because
A) It makes no sense to vote on an inquiry already 3 weeks in
B) Trump has no say in the process, so why would they listen to him or capitulate to him in any way when he is the subject of the investigation?
and
C) A vote is not required, the house majority party already has full subpoena power from changes the Republicans put into place
The legitimate process is the process add it has always been done, with the authorization of the House.
Any impeachment inquiry without authorization lacks the legitimacy of the House.... it's why they've always done it that way in the past.
The only reason to skip that and go with an unauthorized, secretive, and one sided process is to ensure that a specific outcome is reached despite what these evidence might suggest and that certain people who could get caught up in this if it was handled legitimately are protected.
You know this I'm sure but you'll stick to your talking points anyway.
Is there a specific clause in the Constitution to which you are referring? Or are you just relying on "tradition"? I know how Trump feels about being constrained by tradition...
So that's the excuse for making it an unauthorized, secretive, and fundamentally one sided process breaking with precedent?
Sorry guy, doesn't fly, especially after they just got done investigating Trump for 3 years only to turn up nothing they can use.
So, in your mind precedent is a political ploy? Lol yikes, I can't even imagine being that ate up.
I tell you how it's always been handled in the past, something you were seemingly ignorant of, and you say I'm the one who doesn't understand? Okay kiddo.
There's no valid reason why the process should be unauthorized, secretive, and one sided if the goal is to have a legitimate inquiry. You know this.
Nope. What I do know, as do other patriotic Americans, constitutional scholars and legal experts is this: Trump & minions are attempting to distract from his anti-American activities by ignorantly raising procedural complaints to try to sway public opinion. But you know this.
The Constitution makes it clear the House has the “sole” discretion to impeach and the Senate has the “sole” ability to hold a trial. In other words, impeachment is purely a function of the legislative branch; not the executive, and not the judicial.
You can keep yammering and hammering your argument about precedent all you want, but dear, the impeachment inquiry has been going on and is continuing and no amount of distraction and deflection and gaslighting is preventing the evidence from mounting: POTUS decided that our national sovereignty is less important than his political campaign and his political performance, once again.
That crime against we the people is what this is all about and you know this, also.
In one breath she makes that statement, and in her next breath she says it's Trump who is violating the constitution, and breaking historical precedent.
What Pelosi wants to do, is to conduct months of secret, closed door proceedings, where Republicans are not allowed to participate equally. Then, Pelosi and her crew will trickle out select, cherry picked quotes to the public, which only reinforce her own hate-Trump propaganda.
Then a year or so from now, Pelosi will drop all of this on the American people. The public will be forced to try and play catch up, from a year of work. There will be hundreds of hours of interviews, thousands of pages of text, from over a year of this secret impeachment proceedings. She thinks that the public will be too overwhelmed, and just throw up our hands in exasperation.
How are we to be expected to catch up on all of the crap they have been doing in secret for over a year? Not to mention Trump. Will we be able to make sense of it, much less try and refute their secret findings? And of course we will only have days in which to do all of this, because the dems will be demanding an immediate House vote to impeach Trump.
Any attempts by Republicans or by Trump, to try and cross examine witnesses, call their own witnesses, or to challenge evidence presented by Pelosi, will be met which charges by the dems with obstruction of justice, and labeling Republican as trying to pull of dirty tricks, and partisan delay tactics.
Yeah... see this issue here is that it IS just the Trumpers who have been alienated. House democrats aren't voting because
A) It makes no sense to vote on an inquiry already 3 weeks in
B) Trump has no say in the process, so why would they listen to him or capitulate to him in any way when he is the subject of the investigation?
and
C) A vote is not required, the house majority party already has full subpoena power from changes the Republicans put into place
No inquiry has officially begun until it is authorized by the House.... so it's not 3 weeks in.
I'm not suggesting Trump have a say, I'm suggesting they conduct a legitimate inquiry, authorized by the House and conducted in an open, honest, and fair manner which is always how it has been done in the past.
A vote is required for it to be authorized by the House. It's not legitimate until it is authorized.
55 percent of independents favor impeachment and removal from office.
thank you for link, legal. the gallup poll was conducted 10-1 through 10-13. the fox poll was conducted 10-6 through 10-8. independents favor impeachment 39% in fox poll. independents in gallup poll favor impeachment 55%.
I wonder if who was polled may account for the significant difference. the fox poll was given to registered voters. the gallup poll was answered by random (gallup's word) adults over 18 years old living in the united states.
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55 percent of independents favor impeachment and removal from office.
I do, because I want to see the Democrats fall into the TRAP that has been set.
JUST DO IT... Do it Nancy, I double dog dare ya!
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