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Old 10-17-2019, 08:40 AM
 
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Without the full weight and legitimacy of a formal authorization vote it would be just a committee trying to overcome executive privilege on a whim. There's literally no chance that flies in the courts that matter because it would completely destroy executive privilege.
And from what legal authority do you draw that conclusion?
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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No.... they didn't make it to where a House committee could override executive privilege on a whim, so no they can't compel cooperation. Try again
They can unilaterally issue Congressional subpoenas. The WH can try to claim executive privilege, depending on whom they subpoena. We'll see how that shakes out.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:40 AM
 
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The Clinton inquiry was handled in secret by an investigation conducted by Ken Starr. Where were you in the late 90s that you didn't know this?
You are conflating 2 separate things possibly out of ignorance. The Starr investigation wasn't the impeachment inquiry any more than the Mueller investigation was one.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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The Clinton inquiry was handled in secret by an investigation conducted by Ken Starr. Where were you in the late 90s that you didn't know this?
He knows, I suspect. It's just not convenient to his attempted distractions.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:43 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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You can almost hear Trump's words channeled here in these quotes LMAO

Dear Nancy:

Let's work out a good deal. History will look at you favorably if you do things the right and open and honest way and don't impeach me. It will look at you as the devil forever if you are inherently unfair. You will regret it. Don't be a tough guy! Don't be a fool!

I will call you later.

DJT
Funny stuff.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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They can unilaterally issue Congressional subpoenas. The WH can try to claim executive privilege, depending on whom they subpoena. We'll see how that shakes out.
They can issue whatever they like but they can't override executive privilege without being a legitimately authorized presidential impeachment inquiry.... and they know it which is why they won't even contest it
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:44 AM
 
Location: FL
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...97281808498688


Looks like it was Nancy & Chuckie losing it
Then they stormed out.
It looks like Trump getting his a$$ handed to him.

She made it the cover photo on her Twitter and Facebook pages because she liked it so much.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Um, no.

Any investigation in its first stages may be kept secret, to protect the people offering evidence and to make sure that vital secrets are not casually given up. And much of what is alleged to be happening with Trump involves foreign governments and national security, which is a first in the history of presidential impeachment. Let me emphasize that - no other impeachment proceedings have involved suspicions that the president has had improper dealings with foreign countries.
Why emphasize something so stupid? National security? Even if there were some element of that (and there's not!), the Democrats broadly OPPOSE the concept of national security to begin with.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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They can issue whatever they like but they can't override executive privilege without being a legitimately authorized presidential impeachment inquiry.... and they know it which is why they won't even contest it
We will see how that shakes out in Court. I suspect that, while the case is pending, that the House will vote, authorize an impeachment inquiry, and then let the White House either (i) agree that the case is moot and release the documents and sit for depositions without asserting Executive Privilege; or (ii) have to look like fools and liars before the District Court Judge by suddenly arguing that the full vote doesn't override Executive Privilege after all.

In the meantime, everyone else appears to agree that the investigation is legitimate and are cooperating. I wonder to what Sonderland is testifying right now...
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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They can issue whatever they like but they can't override executive privilege without being a legitimately authorized presidential impeachment inquiry.... and they know it which is why they won't even contest it
You sure about that?

  • April 30, 1974: The White House releases more than 1,200 pages of edited transcripts of the Nixon tapes to the House Judiciary Committee, but the committee insists that the tapes themselves must be turned over.
  • July 24, 1974: The Supreme Court rules unanimously that Nixon must turn over the tape recordings of 64 White House conversations, rejecting the president’s claims of executive privilege.
  • July 27, 1974: House Judiciary Committee passes the first of three articles of impeachment, charging obstruction of justice.
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