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The large welfare states of Scandinavia are not without their cost. In 2017, all three countries (Sweden, Denmark, and Norway) had levels of taxation exceeding half of every dollar earned. Taxes as a percent of GDP are:
50.7% in Sweden
53.5% in Denmark
54.7% in Norway
Middle Class Taxes:
If Sanders and Warren were proposing policies that would reduce middle class taxes, do you think leftists would be complaining about the hit on the middle class? Of course not. It’s only when the reality of their policies becomes apparently that they’re playing damage control.
If the US. Tax code was as flat as Denmark's, someone earning $70,000 a year, would face a top marginal tax rate of 46.3%, leaving them $37,600, to pay bills, eat and have fun. Have you seen the cost of a loaf of bread in Scandinavia?
The lowest income earners are taxed!!! Yes, they are taxed too. @ 32%
You want to control someone, control their money, which is exactly why Europeans don't have the freedoms that we do. We make our own decisions with regard to pension, health care, where to work, whether to join a union, which means we have economic mobility unheard of in Western/Northern Europe.
You want to control someone, control their money, which is exactly why Europeans don't have the freedoms that we do. We make our own decisions with regard to pension, health care, where to work, whether to join a union, which means we have economic mobility unheard of in Western/Northern Europe.
"Freedom" is kind of an amorphous concept in the way you are using it here, so I won't comment on that other than to say in my extensive travels in Western Europe I never found them to be materially less "free" than Americans. One might even argue that their healthcare systems allow more freedom when it comes to employment mobility (because they are not tethered to their jobs because of employer-provided health insurance) and that their ability to rely on their health systems make them more "free" to do things.
But as to your second point regarding economic mobility, that claim is demonstrably incorrect. Americans perceive themselves to be far more economically mobile than they really are. In fact, the US lags behind Western/Northern European countries in virtually every the economic mobility metric.
If the US. Tax code was as flat as Denmark's, someone earning $70,000 a year, would face a top marginal tax rate of 46.3%, leaving them $37,600, to pay bills, eat and have fun.
No.
And it wouldnt matter if one did want to be like them, its not going to happen here.
Have you visited a DMV, or dealt with the SS or IRS admins lately? Has anyone checked the solvency of any of the current schemes? They are broke or on their way. No, defense spending isn't going to be cut and that money shifted to a health care scheme. Neither party has the will, desire or intestinal fortitude for it.
In spite of candidates speaking magic words with promises of affordable care, they know not of what they are promising.
The large welfare states of Scandinavia are not without their cost. In 2017, all three countries (Sweden, Denmark, and Norway) had levels of taxation exceeding half of every dollar earned. Taxes as a percent of GDP are:
50.7% in Sweden
53.5% in Denmark
54.7% in Norway
Middle Class Taxes:
If Sanders and Warren were proposing policies that would reduce middle class taxes, do you think leftists would be complaining about the hit on the middle class? Of course not. It’s only when the reality of their policies becomes apparently that they’re playing damage control.
If the US. Tax code was as flat as Denmark's, someone earning $70,000 a year, would face a top marginal tax rate of 46.3%, leaving them $37,600, to pay bills, eat and have fun. Have you seen the cost of a loaf of bread in Scandinavia?
The lowest income earners are taxed!!! Yes, they are taxed too. @ 32%
No I do not. We have our issues here, but I don't want to be like any other country.
Everyone pays the tax. Over 50% of what everyone makes as income, is taken by the governments of these Scandinavian countries.
Yes. However it is hard to compare when in US we pay big time into:
- Property tax
- Health care
- Education
- Etc
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 10-22-2019 at 09:58 AM..
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